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DJs: the serato thread (pg. 2)
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| LightsOut |
| quote: | Originally posted by Skipper
I am not detached enough from my vinyl and my decks to sell them! Plus it appears to be really hard to sell 1200's now, no one is buying, people are going right to CDs.
LightsOut, can you use serato on its own to DJ?? that's kickass - mobile after party DJ set up say what! |
The way that serato works is you have an audio output box that plugs from your computer, into your mixer....and in turn you have several options...
you can either choose to run serato right from your computer, to the speakers, bypassing the cdj's completely..
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what i do, like most people im guessing, you use the CD's that come with it, and plug into the mixer and use the CDJ's in concunction with the serato program. Its pretty kewl and easy to use, you simply drag the song you want from your virtual list, into the virtual deck, and in turn, that song is now able to be played and manipulated on your actual CDJ deck..... |
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| rabbitjoker |
| quote: | Originally posted by geroin
why? have you ever used serato? |
Yes. I have used both Serato and Final Scratch.
The features are nice, great :
- digital readout
- indexing tracks is easier
- cue'ing up is faster
- one can keep their turntables if they want
- looping, tempo adjust, sampling, editing
- etc.
CDJ's are more convenient IMO (you don't need a computer + hardware + software + harddrive + laptop) and would be my preference.
I sold my turntables. After moving to CD I never used them (ever). All the left over vinyl is the bane of my existence!!! |
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| Skipper |
I know CDJs are more common in clubs, but I already know how to DJ on them. I don't need another one for that reason alone.
My thing is that I'm 99.9% digital now yet without a way to mix two digital tracks together at home. Putting out mixes for other people's enjoyment (and my own!) is an enormous headache. So with this purchase, I'm looking at it for home use, maybe taking it out to gigs here and there but not necessarily.
My thinking is why would I buy another piece of equipment that is the same as something I already have when I can spend the same amt of money (maybe less) and learn something new.
Also I just bought a shiny new mac book. :D
Chris, why are you a FORMER final scratch user?
(PS - I'm moving to London this month) |
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| Skipper |
| quote: | Originally posted by rabbitjoker
CDJ's are more convenient IMO (you don't need a computer + hardware + software + harddrive + laptop) and would be my preference.
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Definitely more convenient, but I already have all of the necessary pieces at home to run serato - a new computer, 2 decks I'm not selling, and a mixer.
I definitely see your reasoning tho. Have you tried selling your vinyl? |
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| Chris Allen |
| quote: | Originally posted by Skipper
Also I just bought a shiny new mac book. :D |
For this, I hate you right now. Jealous!
| quote: | Originally posted by Skipper
Chris, why are you a FORMER final scratch user?
(PS - I'm moving to London this month) |
Former because I just sold it to buy CDJ's for at home use. I really don't DJ much at home anymore and I already was 100% digital playing on just CDJ's anyway. The reason I wanted 2 CD players (which I have still yet to get) is so I could work on the effects, looping, etc that are with the CDJ's since when you're mid-performance in a club it's a bit much to monkey around and 'hope' you know what you're doing, and not enough club systems have that 3rd or 4th CDJ.
If you don't plan to bring it to a club, it's of course a great way to have for a home setup, especially if you love to play vinyl. I was under the impression that you would be bringing it back and forth to clubs in which case I would highly recommend against it due to the fact that your gear now includes a laptop + SSL as opposed to just a crate of records or case of CD's.
I love Final Scratch. I love the feel of it of how you can play all your music on vinyl because I still think it's important to know how to play on vinyl and it's nostalgic every time I do. If it's for a home studio, feel free to go this route as it's a nice idea for a stationary setup. But if you're going to drag it around, I would recommend the purchase of a second CDJ.
PS. Let me know when you're in town and we'll go for a drink. |
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| djtransid |
| I have 2 1200's with FS and I've been using it for about 2years now, its nice for at home, but then again when I play out I use cd's now. Generally what i do is play the tune at home and if i like it enough i burn it to CD to play out, saves on CDs (and wasted CD booklet space) and i only burn what i actually want play. I'll be getting CDJs for home use to play with looping and such. but of course i refuse to buy anything less then a CDJ 1000. heh |
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| activate |
| quote: | Originally posted by Skipper
I am not detached enough from my vinyl and my decks to sell them! Plus it appears to be really hard to sell 1200's now, no one is buying, people are going right to CDs.
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you can sell them.. just takes patience. my girlfreind just sold 2 turntables for between 3-350 each. she lowered the price on the second just to move it. another freind sold two that were in mint condition for $700 for the pair same day he listed them.
re: serato.. works better with CDJs instead of turntables. |
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| rabbitjoker |
| quote: | Originally posted by activate
another freind sold two that were in mint condition for $700 for the pair same day he listed them. |
It look me 2 months but I sold my pair for $1000 (they were -barely- used, still smelt new type of things) so agreed, it is possible, yes. |
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| Jeff Button |
| quote: | Originally posted by djtransid
i refuse to buy anything less then a CDJ 1000. heh |
i'm taking a look at a pair of 3 month old 800mk2's
i'll let you know how they are in comparison to the 1000's (i've heard they're pretty damn close) |
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| EvilTree |
| quote: | Originally posted by activate
you can sell them.. just takes patience. my girlfreind just sold 2 turntables for between 3-350 each. she lowered the price on the second just to move it. another freind sold two that were in mint condition for $700 for the pair same day he listed them.
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I sold my 1200s for 700 for the pair too... Felt like I was giving away my own flesh and blood :(
Re: CDJ800s vs 1000s. Don't get 1000s unless you use the wav display often and you plan to do more than simple sampling. If you're going to do mad sampling stuff, might as well get 1000mk3s. mmm.... multiple cue points... Mmmm... No more sampling and looping on the fly... |
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| m2j |
| quote: | Originally posted by Skipper
e/ Burning CDs is a pain in the ass
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not nearly as big a pain in the ass as having to carry a laptop, serato, hard-drive & so on, as well as having to set it up every time. |
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| djtransid |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jeff Button
i'm taking a look at a pair of 3 month old 800mk2's
i'll let you know how they are in comparison to the 1000's (i've heard they're pretty damn close) |
I've heard good things about the 800mk2's too :). now taht i think about it i have used them as well. I'm just anal about dj gear, my first set of paid turntables were 1200's I wasnt in no mood to dick around with anything else. same mentality with cdj's... (when i mean paid TTs its because i used TTs that ppl would toss to the trash as beginners) |
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