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testing the e6850 for producing. (pg. 2)
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| kitphillips |
It makes some sense for them to rewrite the engines, because otherwise people like us start talking about using reaper/sonar, the programs which DO have some decent support.
As to ableton, I can say from experience that it supports at least dual core quite well, I used to use a sngle core centrino 2.26 Ghz, the track count would be aboutut 8 tracks of synths and 70% CPU usage, if I tried to get more the CPU would really flake...
Now I'm using a core 2 duo 2.26 and I can get 15 or so tracks @ about 30% usage; I actually haven't ever maxed out this CPU. That proves pretty well that something has changed, probably the new architecture helps a little too... But the main difference has to be the dual cores. So ableton seems to support dual core well, but quad core isn't something I've exprienced. |
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| Diginerd |
| I cheated and my home brew is running OSX. Waiting for Logic 8.. :-) |
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| echosystm |
| quote: | Originally posted by kitphillips
It makes some sense for them to rewrite the engines, because otherwise people like us start talking about using reaper/sonar, the programs which DO have some decent support.
As to ableton, I can say from experience that it supports at least dual core quite well, I used to use a sngle core centrino 2.26 Ghz, the track count would be aboutut 8 tracks of synths and 70% CPU usage, if I tried to get more the CPU would really flake...
Now I'm using a core 2 duo 2.26 and I can get 15 or so tracks @ about 30% usage; I actually haven't ever maxed out this CPU. That proves pretty well that something has changed, probably the new architecture helps a little too... But the main difference has to be the dual cores. So ableton seems to support dual core well, but quad core isn't something I've exprienced. |
did you check the actual utilisation of each core? check in task manager, you can see how much of each core is being used. i gave ableton a bash, one core was about 30%, other was 5% (which i doubt was even ableton). |
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| kitphillips |
Thats not consistent at all with what I have.... I'm getting equal graphs between the two cores, with the only difference is that one core is maybe 5 percent lower. Exactly the same spikes and troughs though, and really almost no difference between the two levels.
I think we must have different setups... I assume we're both talking about live 6? |
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| echosystm |
| quote: | Originally posted by kitphillips
Thats not consistent at all with what I have.... I'm getting equal graphs between the two cores, with the only difference is that one core is maybe 5 percent lower. Exactly the same spikes and troughs though, and really almost no difference between the two levels.
I think we must have different setups... I assume we're both talking about live 6? |
yeah, i was just using the demo + inbuilt stuff though. maybe 3rd party plugins are handled better? |
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| kitphillips |
| quote: | Originally posted by echosystm
yeah, i was just using the demo + inbuilt stuff though. maybe 3rd party plugins are handled better? |
Could it be the fact that it was the demo? Maybe they disabled multi core in the demo version:wtf:
Also, I was basing that off a session with a fair few audio tracks and effects, as well as 3rd party plugin (basically a standard session) so maybe that has something to do with it. |
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| a98 |
fl7 has this on it's new features:
"Multi-core safe generators can now be threaded for performance gain on multi-core CPUs."
anyone care to explain what that really means.. |
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| echosystm |
| quote: | Originally posted by a98
anyone care to explain what that really means.. |
multi-core safe vst INSTRUMENTS will run on other cores. so, most vst instruments will load themselves onto your second core, but not all. no vst effects ever will. considering that vst effects take up 75% of your cpu usage, it's a massive issue. problem is, Gol can't easily fix this, because the fl studio engine was never designed to support multiple audio threads.
as it is, most of my projects result in one core sitting on 70%, while the other sits on ~10-20%. |
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| a98 |
| thanks for the answer! well that's still better than no support at all.. |
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| Magnus |
So if I had to choose between the E6850 or the Q6600, which one would you suggest I buy for a DAW?
On a side note, anyone seen XP DAW edition and tried it? Thoughts? |
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| Aesthetic |
| What's XP DAW edition about, Magnus? I recently got a copy of tinyxp which is like a 200mb install of XP and cuts out all the unnecessary bullcrap, frees up like an additional 100 meg ram that xp used to use, and i'm pretty sure is easier on the CPU too.. I'm considering installing that when I build my next machine. |
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