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if u were god.. (pg. 3)
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| david.michael |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
Hey, you too Dave! :mad: |
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| Ygrene |
| If I were God, I would change the period in david.michael's screenname to a comma, just to do it. :toocool: |
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| camsr |
| why would god make a god bigger than himself? |
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| RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by camsr
why would god make a god bigger than himself? |
The same reason a guy who can suck his own dick, sucks his own dick.
Because he can. |
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| Ygrene |
| quote: | Originally posted by camsr
why would god make a god bigger than himself? |
So he could kick back and smoke some doobies while the other God handled crap? |
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| david.michael |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ygrene
If I were God, I would change the period in david.michael's screenname to a comma, just to do it. :toocool: |
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| leph555 |
| If i were god, no one would question my doing |
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| Ygrene |
| quote: | Originally posted by leph555
If i were god, no one would question my dong |
Now that is just scary. :nervous: |
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| Dervish |
I agree fully with the discussions, that basically both view come down to faith. Where did the universe come from? Where did god come from?
But... I would say most 'god based' theories are born rather than developed and entirely untested. While I accept we could just be playing about finding the laws of god's sandpit while he exists outside it. Kinda like thinking the moon is made of cheese without any reason for it.
While it could be seen as closed minded. Why believe (as in believe rather than accept possible) something when you have had nothing but a book (choose your book and faith) which has been around for hundreds of years and interpreted as the person telling you about it sees fit? Has anything ever been developed from (god based) faith? |
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| RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dervish
I agree fully with the discussions, that basically both view come down to faith. Where did the universe come from? Where did god come from?
But... I would say most 'god based' theories are born rather than developed and entirely untested. While I accept we could just be playing about finding the laws of god's sandpit while he exists outside it. Kinda like thinking the moon is made of cheese without any reason for it.
While it could be seen as closed minded. Why believe (as in believe rather than accept possible) something when you have had nothing but a book (choose your book and faith) which has been around for hundreds of years and interpreted as the person telling you about it sees fit? Has anything ever been developed from (god based) faith? |
I think it's important to make a distinction here between organized religion and deism. Organized religion is primarily a product of committees of men with common interests, the practice of deism (at least in an academic sense, i.e. the "founding fathers" in the states) can probably best be described as individuals who accept established empirical scientific fact, but for some reason (most commonly ascribed to "faith") believe that the realm of empirical knowledge is limited and that there is simply "something", or more precisely "some being", out there greater than us. Whether or not that being has any hand in our day to day affairs, or is even still alive, is irrelevant to many self-described deists - as is dogmatic religious doctrine.
Individuals who base their faith entirely on a book or on dogmatic practice of religious activities done solely because of routine will likely have a harder time having a conversation like this, or any conversation acknowledging the limitations of knowledge and possibility with regard to religion, however, the almost intuitional faith of the deists seems to defy the argument against dogmatism.
The obvious argument against many deists is to question whether or not their faith is simply prudential as opposed to them finding intrinsic value in it, but this is a paltry complaint as the prudent individual will likely either:
A. Own up to his prudent religious practice.
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B. Not have his ideas developed fully enough to realize his faith is merely prudential, and therefore can be dismissed outright.
In the end, however, I find the individuals who have this genuine kind of "faith" based solely (or at least primarily) on their own intuition, and who find ways to reconcile the scientific and theistic communities, absolutely intriguing, and probably the strongest (though I'm not sure it's entirely convincing) argument in favor of God.
I'll be happy if just one of you even read all that. :p |
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| Dervish |
I did! lol
Yeah I was listening to a discussion on BBC Radio 4 recently one, about the treatment of those who believe in creationism in school, specifically in science class.
Most interestingly was a priest who was arguing his point, he was basically saying you can't trample people beliefs. The interviewer at one point started essentially writing off creationists (understandable) but the priest just said "well actually I'm not only a priest but also hold a doctorate in biology".
His personal view was that evolution happened but that it didn't conflict with his faith. But he also believed that people have the rights to their own view (which was the point of the interview).
But like you say if he was to preach to me I'd find it hard to out do him using the science debate! :p |
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