Originally posted by nchs09
i miss tribal more than that .
Yes.... +1
ToxicGreenWaste
What's this stuff about early 90's. The first popular Freestyle track was released in 1983. Its height of popularity was probably the mid 80's.
Ishkur
Guys, those are terrible examples of eurodance. They're not even eurodance. What you're listing is the vocal trance crossover dreck. No, don't dispute this.
Differences between the two:
1) Vocal hooks are different. TRUE eurodance vocals are more diva-esque...borrowing influences from old italo house and urban/R&B. Almost over the top and bombastic. eurodance vocalists are often black American females, in fact. By contrast, vocal trance singers are white, of poor quality, whisper most of the time, have no range, are offkey, and attempt to be sultry and seductive but fail at both.
2) Vocal content. Vocal trance is about love, destiny, peace, and other tranquil bull. eurodance is about love, dancing, and the love of dancing, but to an aggressive extent....indeed, it is far more physical and direct, with call outs about how it get you on the dancefloor, get you moving, and get you all sweaty and energized. The music videos reflected this.
3) Vocal trance still contains elements of the euro trance formula, ie: breakdowns, snare rolls, and saw chord anthems. eurodance has very little of this, if any.
4) The galloping bassline. Eurodance has this. Vocal trance does not. Well, usually. Vocal trance tends to go for the offbeat bassline which makes it more bouncy, where as the galloping bassline makes Eurodance feel more energetic and driving, again adhering to its well-proclaimed intention that it will "make you sweat".
5) But by far the most distinguished feature of eurodance is its cheesy and -eating-grin inducing hallmark: Rapping. Vocal trance never has this. If there's rapping in your dance song, its eurodance.
Know that this is REAL EURODANCE:
I will not stand by and let you dolts sully the good name of Eurodance by associating it with that Cascada/Motorcyle/Oceanlab/DJ Sammy filth.
This is Eurodance. Accept no crappy imitations.
note: none of this has to do with Freestlye, the Miami pop genre that shooted out from electro and bass music and predated both eurodance and vocal trance by a good 10-15 years, and is not particularly related or influenced by any of them.
racing4hoes
this is garbage freestyle. its popular among the hispanic community as someone already mentioned.
SYSTEM-J
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Originally posted by Ishkur
I will not stand by and let you dolts sully the good name of Eurodance by associating it with that Cascada/Motorcyle/Oceanlab/DJ Sammy filth.
This is Eurodance. Accept no crappy imitations.
And I won't stand by and let you sully the good name of Epic House by associating it with DJ Sammy pop cover trite. Fix that in V3!
Ishkur
oh, you won't have anything to worry about, Jack.
Epic house won't exist in v3.
In fact, a recent epiphany has me contemplating of getting rid of genre "nodes" altogether and replacing the schema with something more intuitive.
SYSTEM-J
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Originally posted by Ishkur
oh, you won't have anything to worry about, Jack.
Epic house won't exist in v3.
In fact, a recent epiphany has me contemplating of getting rid of genre "nodes" altogether and replacing the schema with something more intuitive.
Careful, lest you end up with the online flash equivalent of Duke Nukem Forever.
CHRles
I can't believe we're having this discussion, but since we are, I'm sorry Ishkur but you don't have all your facts straight.
Euro-Dance includes Euro-Trance, and Euro-Pop, as well as Italo. As such, it predates Freestyle by a few years, and emerged as a genre around the same time as New Wave in the very early 80s.
While Freestyle peaked in the late 80s/early 90s, Eurodance came in waves both in the 80s, and 90s.
In the 90s EuroDance naturally became faster, and oftentimes took elements from Chicago's Hip House sound, as well as from commercial Techno. That's how you ended up with all those male rappers/female singer combos.
Prime examples include Snap's "Rhythm Is A Dancer" http://youtube.com/watch?v=C9c5otT-RUA
Some of those records signalled the begining of Euro-Trance, though they were far from sounding like DJ Sammy or Lasgo. Still, both Snap and Culture Beat were based out of Frankfurt, and influenced by the Trance scene that was blowing up there. In fact, the guys behind Snap actually had a hit with Sven Vath in the 80s and the guy behind Culture Beat was Torsten Fenslau who was one of the Top DJs in Germany until his untilmely death (I think it was in 94).
EuroDance wasnt all just about rappers and female singers in the early 90s. Some songs were all vocal, like Haddaway "What Is Love" http://youtube.com/watch?v=3DmhYtr_UfM
Remember Ian Van Dahl? The guys behind it had a tune with Kate Ryan a number of years back. It was another remake called "Desechantee" http://youtube.com/watch?v=x65k9dQScT8
So yeah, it's pretty easy to tie Lasgo and DJ Sammy with Culture Beat and Snap
Ishkur
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Careful, lest you end up with the online flash equivalent of Duke Nukem Forever.
Considering it's gone through about seven radically different forms of project specifications, sustainability proposals and design schematics, each with its own benefits, privileges, strengths, forecasts, pitfalls, trials and tribulations, I'd say the comparison is apt.
In project management circles, they would call what I'm going through "paralysis by analysis". Eventually, I'm going to have to or get off the pot.
Or concede everything to Wiki and Youtube.
Ishkur
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Originally posted by CHRles
I can't believe we're having this discussion, but since we are, I'm sorry Ishkur but you don't have all your facts straight.
Euro-Dance includes Euro-Trance, and Euro-Pop, as well as Italo.
No it doesn't. Eurodance is a specific genre that dominated charts in the early to mid 90s. It's different than Eurotrance and Italo (which is much much older, and more legendary). I suppose you can classify all these things as some gigantic umbrella called europop, but that's neither here nor there.
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Originally posted by CHRles
As such, it predates Freestyle by a few years, and emerged as a genre around the same time as New Wave in the very early 80s.
You're probably thinking of Hi-NRG Disco (Sylvester, Patrick Cowley, Giorgio Moroder and the like. The arpeggiating/galloping synth aesthete). Not Eurodance. Modern Talking, Gazebo and the like were Italo. Petshop Boys, A-Ha and the more polished sounds were Synthpop/New Romantics.
