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Krypton
I've just started taking a course on how to prepare income taxes for the 2008 tax season. I've got the income tax textbook and will be a tax preparer by January. As many of you know, I believe the income tax is unconstitutional and illegal. But here I am going to do the very taxes I despise. I'll be learning the system. The IRS, regulations, deductions, exemptions, hopefully I know the ins and out of the IRS tax system. And let me tell you, they speak in IRS talk, for example, "To claim the credit, complete Form 8880 and attach it to Form 1040. Enter the credit from Form 8880, Line 14 on Form 1040, Line 51. The credit is limited to the tax on Form 1040, Line 46 minus any amounts for credits on Lines 47, 48 , 49, and 50."

Obviously the IRS tax code is not meant to be understood by the average tax payer, which I think is criminal. I think this is the reason most people don't even know the law that states income from labor is not taxable under the constitution. But as I've realized, both by my class, and by my research, the IRS has agents out there who can take your pay check, your home, your car, and all your assets if they think you owe them money. I call this the mafia of government.

Everyone reading this should support the Fair Tax Bill. No more IRS, no more seizures, no more tax evasion, transparency, understandability of the tax code by average citizens! What more could you ask for!?
Mr. Pubes
the tax code is in english


Mr. Pubes
ams.rld
Yeah um the tax code is pretty easy. All what it takes is some reading and easy math. Americans are just lazy on the side note, I have never filled for income taxes..........:(
Krypton
The tax code is in english and easy?? Whaaaaaa??!!

The Constitution is but a fraction of the thousands upon thousands of pages of the IRS tax code! Have you guys ever taken a look at it? It's nothing but accounting jibberish (which is why I say its IRS talk)...

Take a look... http://www.fourmilab.ch/uscode/26usc/www/t26.html
ams.rld
Wha?! I was making an ignorant statement:(
DJ Shibby
Isn't the IRS an illegal entity?
pkcRAISTLIN
quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
Obviously the IRS tax code is not meant to be understood by the average tax payer, which I think is criminal.


honestly, what the is your problem? name ANY legal framework that's easy for your "average" citizen to understand. That's why we have experts. How would you go about making the requirements and laws easier to understand yet still codify everything you want, and still achieve the objectives you require?

This new chip on your shoulder is becoming quite painful to deal with. Hint: there are a lot of people with a vaster understanding of all these things you've noticed in the last 5 minutes, and you should pay them a little respect before you waltz in here with your undergrad naivete spouting bull all over the place.

quote:

As many of you know, I believe the income tax is unconstitutional and illegal


You lassez faire lovers are as bad as the socialists with your poor understanding of mixed economies and the necessity for government.
Fir3start3r
Just be thankful you aren't learning the Canadian Tax Code; its arguably the most complex in the world...at least for personal income.
eROs.au
I think I read somewhere that Americans pay something like 2,000,000,000 a year just to pay their taxes.
Q5echo
quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
I've just started taking a course on how to prepare income taxes for the 2008 tax season. As many of you know, I believe the income tax is unconstitutional and illegal.


:haha: good luck on being the worlds most ironic accountant!

you say some of the dumbest sh*t




like the twisted Fir3start3r said, the Canadian tax code is supposedly a nightmare.

...and i always thought the Canadian Central Bank (Bank of Canada) was illegal too.:rolleyes: hell, every Canuck north of the Mason Dixon should be rounded up into labor camps and hornswaggled with wet noodles

Q5echo
quote:
Originally posted by eROs.au
I think I read somewhere that Americans pay something like 2,000,000,000 a year just to pay their taxes.


you mean $2,000,000,000,000.00

it's trillion with a "T"

Federal tax receipts grew 6.7 percent in fiscal 2007 to a record $2.568 trillion.
Groundhog Boy
quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
you mean $2,000,000,000,000.00

it's trillion with a "T"

Federal tax receipts grew 6.7 percent in fiscal 2007 to a record $2.568 trillion.

I think that he meant to have them prepared by an accountant/tax attorney, not what they payed. I don't know if the figure was right, but that's the way i read it.
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