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Your Favorites for the Primary (pg. 6)
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| barbina |
| quote: | Originally posted by Trancer-X
I have a hard time understanding why people would vote based on those issues when there are so many others which are of such greater importance. (except for immigration because that IS very important)
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gay rights not important?
how about i tell YOU that YOU cant get married one day
or that YOU may never be allowed to adopt children because its "politically incorrect".
that. seriously
compared to this.. immigration is nothing |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| quote: | Originally posted by barbina
gay rights not important?
how about i tell YOU that YOU cant get married one day
or that YOU may never be allowed to adopt children because its "politically incorrect".
that. seriously
compared to this.. immigration is nothing |
And unfortunately it's the one issue that all the candidates leave a lot to be desired. I've never understood this debate. People are people are people. Love is love is love. Who's to judge the "good" from the "bad" in either case? |
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| eROs.au |
| I think it will become socially acceptable in time whether politicians accept it or not. |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| quote: | Originally posted by eROs.au
I think it will become socially acceptable in time whether politicians accept it or not. |
Yeah, unfortunately politicians are often behind the times. |
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| Omega_M |
| quote: | Originally posted by barbina
gay rights not important?
how about i tell YOU that YOU cant get married one day
or that YOU may never be allowed to adopt children because its "politically incorrect".
that. seriously
compared to this.. immigration is nothing |
Different people give different relative weights to the problems depending on how they affect them personally.
An illegal immigrant would care less for civil rights of the gay society. |
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| Omega_M |
| quote: | Originally posted by eROs.au
I think it will become socially acceptable in time whether politicians accept it or not. |
I think this is totally incorrect. Politicians are a part of the society. Gay civil rights are not acceptable to many people in the US. Same sex marriages are still not as socially acceptable as straight marriages anywhere in the world. The politicians stand to gain more by opposing these rights than supporting them. How many people will frown on same sex marriages ? You can talk about this all over the internet, but when it comes to real life, society is still not ready to accept these issues. If you see two gay men openly kissing in public what fraction of the watchers will feel a revulsion and what fraction will approve of the behavior ? Now replace the kissing couple by a guy and a girl. |
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| barbina |
| im not saying youre wrong omega, all im saying is its wrong for him to say its not an important issue. i know its not gonna change anytime soon, but its still one of the main deciding factors in my vote. Ill vote for whoever is more for it than against it. |
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| Trancer-X |
| quote: | Originally posted by barbina
gay rights not important?
how about i tell YOU that YOU cant get married one day
or that YOU may never be allowed to adopt children because its "politically incorrect".
that. seriously
compared to this.. immigration is nothing |
Don't get me wrong because I believe that everyone is created equal. I just don't think that at this very moment that gay rights is nearly as important as saving our country from ruin. Most people are eager to proclaim their individual rights but they fail to realize that if our Constitution (and it's Bill of Rights) becomes any further tread upon and/or dismantled then freedom as we've come to know it could be thrown out the window. |
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| barbina |
| i believe denying gay rights will send our country into ruin. its one reason why im moving to canada. |
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| MisterOpus1 |
I think I found Latin's favorite candidate:
| quote: | Republican presidential candidate Fred D. Thompson has been crisscrossing the country since early this summer on a private jet lent to him by a businessman and close adviser who has a criminal record for drug dealing. [...]
Martin entered a plea of guilty to the sale of 11 pounds of marijuana in 1979; the court withheld judgment pending completion of his probation. He was charged in 1983 with violating his probation and with multiple counts of felony bookmaking, cocaine trafficking and conspiracy. He pleaded no contest to the cocaine-trafficking and conspiracy charges, which stemmed from a plan to sell $30,000 worth of the drug, and was continued on probation.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...ml?hpid=topnews |
Grandpa Fred continues to surprise me...... |
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| eROs.au |
| I'm surprised Opus. I wouldn't expect you to judge someone based on someone else's past. |
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| MisterOpus1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by eROs.au
I'm surprised Opus. I wouldn't expect you to judge someone based on someone else's past. |
I don't. But I do like to point out blatant hypocrisy by the GOP base instead.
And for someone like Grandpa Fred to be aligned with someone who's colorful past in the drug trade is, well, rather interesting to say the least. |
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