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Thousands return to safer Iraqi capital (pg. 2)
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| Q5echo |
| quote: | Originally posted by MisterOpus1
You really think the WH would have changed their edited report back to the full interview all on their own? |
do you really think any of it matters?
the fact that they'd use ABC news reports to officially go on record to state things publicly means nothing to you?
what this came down to was copywrite infrigement.
you see some Stalinesque propaganda crackdown. thats hardly the case. much like a lot of your Pavlovian hatred. |
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| MisterOpus1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Q5echo
okay so you are going on the record right now to say that the political process will not work? |
I believe I said it is going nowhere, much as it has been up to this point. Combine that trend with the attitude of this current government plus the attitude of the Sunnis, the likelihood of the political process moving anywhere forward is not in their favor. That's not a difficult prediction to make, nor is it implausible. And since that was the primary reason for the SURGE!, that undermines the rationale for the SURGE! in the first place.
| quote: | | do you really think any of it matters? |
Editing an interview to fit their viewpoint? Umm, yes.
| quote: | | the fact that they'd use ABC news reports to officially go on record to state things publicly means nothing to you? |
I'm afraid I'm not following you. What are you implying?
| quote: | | what this came down to was copywrite infrigement. |
And that's quoted where in the ABC report again?
| quote: | | you see some Stalinesque propaganda crackdown. thats hardly the case. much like a lot of your Pavlovian hatred. |
I see deliberate editing to bolster their view. Only when they got busted did they recant and change to the unedited version.
Is "Pavlovian" your favorite word lately? |
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| LatinLover |
Incredible! All the stats that our military uses now for the far left are stats that are sabotaged and viewed as pure "propaganda" You see that is why I dont really try hard around this forum. Okay If our current plan dosent work. Someone please tell me what the we should be doing in Iraq to restore security/peace and a stable governments that can withhold itself? Someone please tell me what the we should be doing? Oh I know, lets get withdraw there as soon as possible :rolleyes:
People should stop bitching and complaining and start bringing solutions to the table. |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by LatinLover
Oh I know, lets get withdraw there as soon as possible :rolleyes:
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There ya go :) it took you a while to figure this out but you finally did it. |
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| Q5echo |
| quote: | Originally posted by MisterOpus1
the likelihood of the political process moving anywhere forward is not in their favor. |
it doesn't take a genius come up with a prediction like that in a place like Iraq.
the question is will it work? i say, given the chance for success (what the SURGE! continues to do) it very well could succeed.
why hope for any other outcome? (rhetorical. i already know that answer)
there has been plenty of political progress on many levels in Iraq BTW. thats probably why Karl annotates "on the National level"
| quote: | | Editing an interview to fit their viewpoint? Umm, yes. |
but you are suggesting that the WH believes there are no other Iraq news sources other than their own. otherwise what would be the point of their omitting that last segment? i'll tell you why in a second.
Karl's full report aired in it's entirety, unedited, on primetime tv for the entire country to see. are you saying the WH edited that? no you are not.
| quote: | | I'm afraid I'm not following you. What are you implying? |
what i'm saying is that what the WH used of Karl's report in text form was published as whats called the White House Iraq Update. it's an official statement used by the press office for dissemination at whatever level they like to use text like that for. in addition to that, they probably like to use information like that in a context of their choosing. in this case the context was related to trends in civilian and military deaths and overall violence, not as a barometer for something different like "political process on the national level"
| quote: | | Is "Pavlovian" your favorite word lately? |
i have never used that word here. seriously, ever. |
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| Omega_M |
| quote: | Originally posted by LatinLover
You see that is why I dont really try hard around this forum. |
What ? :stongue:
How many more daily threads will we see, if you start trying harder ? |
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| LatinLover |
| quote: | Originally posted by Omega_M
What ? :stongue:
How many more daily threads will we see, if you start trying harder ? |
At least thank me for putting up topics worth looking at :rolleyes: I can post a conspiracy thread if you wish. My neighbors dog was found brutalized, do you think it was a Chupa Cabra? |
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| DJ Shibby |
lol, these posts are cute.
It's like you're grasping so very hard to hold on to some sort of figment of your imagination that hopes beyond truth that this world isn't actually the mess that we've helped make it to be.
Anyway, keep hoping, it's easier when you're young and dumb, and we've all got to believe in something. |
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| Magnetonium |
Three thousand Iraqi civilians have returned to the capital ... while tens of thousands of more others can never return again ... because they're DEAD. And no happy happy articles can change that. Something that is quickly getting forgotten by the day, something thats not important at all, it appears, something that has little effect on the terrible situation in Iraq right now overall. Sectarian violence is just one of MANY problems that Iraqis face every day. Many of those are easier to fix (like providing constant electricity supplies in main cities at least), but havent - and sectarian violence is not the primary cause for that.
Its easy to look at the TV screen here in North America and then read one article about decreasing sectarian violence and then proclaining that finally the peace and stability and progress has come back to Iraq. Because that has been announced before, about a year after the invasion ... and look what happened next.
Iraqi people for most part still face the same problems and issues that they did in the early days of the "liberation" of Iraq.
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by Magnetonium
Iraqi people for most part still face the same problems and issues that they did in the early days of the "liberation" of Iraq.
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Their country is ed up then ever before,but hey this is all about democracy so all this bloodshed is totally worth it.:rolleyes:
when will people start admitting that the Iraqis were alot better under Saddams regime then they are now?and yes he killed and tortured some people but thats why he had the country held together. |
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| _Ocean_Drive_ |
| quote: | Originally posted by LatinLover
Someone please tell me what the we should be doing? Oh I know, lets get withdraw there as soon as possible :rolleyes:
People should stop bitching and complaining and start bringing solutions to the table. |
I think we should send in another 3,000 troops to be needlessly killed, then maybe Iraq will become teh best3st democracey in teh w0rldzz....0rz |
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| Krypton |
| quote: | Originally posted by LatinLover
Incredible! All the stats that our military uses now for the far left are stats that are sabotaged and viewed as pure "propaganda" You see that is why I dont really try hard around this forum. Okay If our current plan dosent work. Someone please tell me what the we should be doing in Iraq to restore security/peace and a stable governments that can withhold itself? Someone please tell me what the we should be doing? Oh I know, lets get withdraw there as soon as possible :rolleyes:
People should stop bitching and complaining and start bringing solutions to the table. |
You don't have the intelligence to try hard..
You want solutions? Draft all college republicans such yourself, and send your ass to Iraq to fight. But you're too much of a to fight beyond an internet forum for the frauds you believe in so much...:rolleyes: |
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