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Oh, about that reduction in Iraqi violence argument (pg. 2)
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Lebezniatnikov
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Originally posted by LatinLover

I repeat, stop aiding the terrorist in aiding them with their propaganda. We should report you do the department of homeland security before you do antyhing stupid




Please do, they would laugh in your face! :p
MisterOpus1
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Originally posted by LatinLover
I touched your nerve didnt I? You have lost your nerves because I hit the truth in this forum in exposing you.


I lose patience with idiocy, dear twit. That's only nerves lost, which actually they were lost long ago.

And rest assured, that rant was a long time coming. Enjoy the attention like a good little troll that you are. I'll try not to stoop down to your disgusting level too often.


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I repeat, it is clear of your Anti-American sentiments in this forum. For all those people that havent put the puzzle together on you Opus,Im going to do it. It is clear that you are in the side of the terrorists, you basically are the speaker of the anti- american voice.


I'm curious as to why you think your idiot Bush cheerleading voice is somehow to be equating with being "American"?

I've wasted enough time on your idiocy. Support your arguments or troll somewhere else.


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your function is basically to discredit any progressive information to help spread the anti american propaganda so it can benefit all the followers of the resistance.


"The resistance"?

Dumbass - over 2/3 of this great country are against this war. That makes little chickenhawks like you the "resistance", while the rest of us constitute the majority.

Support your arguments or troll somewhere else.


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You are a disgrace to this country...


You're a disgrace to the Republican party and the true Conservative movement for that matter. You represent no one but your idiot self.

More importantly, you disgrace this forum with your irrelevant, unsupported drivel.

And most importantly, with your blind and complete ignorance, you're a disgrace to humanity.

Support your arguments or troll somewhere else.


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and im warning you If i was your neighbor I would keep an eye of you.


I really can't believe I'm even talking to you anymore. You're a ing idiot.

Warning me?

Keep an eye on me?

There are a number of great totalitarian, paranoid governments on this planet that I think you would fit terrific in. Thankfully, this great country is not one of them. You don't belong here with such paranoia.

But then again, I guess I'd be afraid if I could never support my arguments either if I were you.


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I hope you dont do any stupid , you hatred towards our troops is visible.


What was that, chickenhawk? My wife and I both have good friends that are in the military. I have a cousin right now stationed in Iraq on my father's side. My father was in the military and served in Vietnam. My father-in-law served in the military in the Korean War. Both my grandfathers served in WWII.

It's pathetic to see your mindset. Somehow in your twisted sense of logic you seem to think my hatred of the policies that sent my friends and family members to this war is the same as hating my friends and family members serving.

I really tried hard to give you the benefit of the doubt. But it's pretty obvious why your stupid troll-ass got banned three times already:

You

Are

A

ing

Idiot.


Support your arguments, Arnold, or go troll somewhere else.


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You question their will to win, and instead of cheering for them to continue on the right track you come and discredit them.


Chickenhawk, I discredit the policies that took them there as well as the rationale as to why the violence is down.

That does NOT equate to me discrediting what they do and the sacrifices they perform.

Now, do you have any supporting evidence to counter my arguments made, or will you continue to try to derail the topic at hand with your bull ad hominem attacks at me personally?

Because this is old.


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Shame on you!


God help you.


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What made you turn against this country Opus?


What made you become such a complete idiot, Arnold?

What made you get banned three times already, Arnold?

Why do you have a ing pot leaf walking down the street for your pic, Arnold?

Who the do you think you are to supposedly corner the market on what it is to be an American, chickenhawk?

Because I firmly despise the policies of this President does not equate to me hating the country you ing twit. Can you possibly comprehend that?

And do you have any supporting evidence to counter my arguments made in my original post, or will you continue to try to derail this thread?


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Why are you spreading propaganda of the harm these terrorist are doing to the iraqi people and our troops.


Why are you too much of a coward to attempt to counter the arguments made?

And do you have any supporting evidence to counter my arguments made in my original post, or will you continue to try to derail this thread?

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I repeat, stop aiding the terrorist in aiding them with their propaganda.


And I repeat - you're a ing idiot.

And do you have any supporting evidence to counter my arguments made in my original post, or will you continue to try to derail this thread?


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We should report you do the department of homeland security before you do antyhing stupid


Sorry, Adolf, wrong country. It's pretty obvious that you'd fit real nice in that country of old.

And I repeat - you're a ing idiot.

And do you have any supporting evidence to counter my arguments made in my original post, or will you continue to try to derail this thread?
Krypton
Latin's rhetoric is limited to slander, and inflammatory language. No debate, just language intended to incite anger.

I think the forum's quality is being ruined by inflammatory trolls like Latinloser...:o I still call for his bannination for at least his 3rd time on TA..
Lebezniatnikov
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Originally posted by Krypton
Latin's rhetoric is limited to slander, and inflammatory language. No debate, just language intended to incite anger.

I think the forum's quality is being ruined by inflammatory trolls like Latinloser...:o I still call for his bannination for at least his 3rd time on TA..



Just put him on ignore. I still don't think banning somebody for their beliefs, however stupid and juvenile, is a good idea. But it's not like his posts are going to convince anybody of his side - in fact, I think he does a better job of making people believe people like Opus than even Opus can.
Q5echo
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Originally posted by MisterOpus1
Chickenhawk, I discredit the policies that took them there as well as the rationale as to why the violence is down.

That does NOT equate to me discrediting what they do and the sacrifices they perform.


you may not realize it but yes it does.

whatever rationale you've come up with as to why the violence is down completely ignores the fact that your troops haven't given Sadr that many options to work with, short of having a platoon of SEALs drag him out of bed in the middle of the night and place a hood over his head.
pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by Q5echo
whatever rationale you've come up with as to why the violence is down completely ignores the fact that your troops haven't given Sadr that many options to work with, short of having a platoon of SEALs drag him out of bed in the middle of the night and place a hood over his head.


that may be true, however it should still be a part of the debate and also considered in future policy. most of the stuff available says "surge = less violence" and why that might be true, leaving out such important exceptions to that equation reeks of politics to me.
hardcore trancer
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Originally posted by LatinLover
MissOctopus1,

You have revealed your true colors! Its obvious you are an anti-american that questions and blindly denies the progress being made on the ground.



oh off with the progres bull please,there is no progress it is a dead end.this admin failed badly and the only they can do is to get the hell out.



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Its obious that you favor and are rooting for the resistance and you hope that America fails in Iraq.


wow so you think 2/3 of the Americans are anti American and pro resistance?


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It bothers you that finally we are in the right track.



LMAO right track?are you refering to the infamous "surge plan"?
:stongue:

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IT disgusts me that you have this type of mentality... it sad that you try to prove a political point instead of the well being of America... let me ask you Miss what have you done for this country? Have you ever volunteered in our arm forces? What have you done to make this country a better place? From the mentality that you have is the reason why we have idiots like Timothy mcveigh



:rolleyes:
Krypton
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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
Just put him on ignore. I still don't think banning somebody for their beliefs, however stupid and juvenile, is a good idea. But it's not like his posts are going to convince anybody of his side - in fact, I think he does a better job of making people believe people like Opus than even Opus can.


I already ignored him, but I see other people responding to him! And then, I have to respond!:p :rolleyes:
Q5echo
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
that may be true, however it should still be a part of the debate and also considered in future policy. most of the stuff available says "surge = less violence" and why that might be true, leaving out such important exceptions to that equation reeks of politics to me.


Opus' rationale is flawed.

leave it to the history books then. right now everybody invested in the effort deserves recognition.
pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by Q5echo
Opus' rationale is flawed.


to be honest i wasn't listening to his rationale, i was just perusing the facts.

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leave it to the history books then. right now everybody invested in the effort deserves recognition.


you won't find an argument from me here, i just hope those that are attempting to take the credit in washington are prepared for Sadr should things change after the 6 months self-imposed ceasefire.

MisterOpus1
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Originally posted by Q5echo
you may not realize it but yes it does.


Then demonstrate how anything I've said specifically regarding the civilian foreign policies made somehow is an attack against the troops who's orders are to follow those said policies.

Don't you fall into that slander category now, Q. Only one per thread, please.

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whatever rationale you've come up with as to why the violence is down completely ignores the fact that your troops haven't given Sadr that many options to work with, short of having a platoon of SEALs drag him out of bed in the middle of the night and place a hood over his head.


You're implying that my argument completely undermines the work of the troops in the SURGE!

Putting the fact that they were a short-term solution to the political process progression for a moment and that they'll soon start to reduce their numbers back to pre-SURGE! levels by next summer, the primary point I am making is that the entire credit for the reduction in troop deaths cannot be fully attributed to the action by the SURGE! alone.

No facts are being ignored on my end, Q. Rather, what's obviously being ignored by your mouthpieces, MSM, and this Administration is that al-Sadr had a very active role in reducing the violence himself, But your group is trying to take all the credit for your think-tank SURGE! idea, which given the evidence presented that is clearly not the case.

So will we be seeing your side give tribute to al-Sadr willingly calling off the violence against our troops for 6 months anytime soon?
MisterOpus1
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Originally posted by Q5echo
Opus' rationale is flawed.


Support your assertion.

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leave it to the history books then. right now everybody invested in the effort deserves recognition.


Including all Americans, by the way. Unfortunately we're going to be paying for this debacle for years, if not decades to come.

And you guys put that future burden, not to mention a birth tax on our future generations as a consequence. Thanks a gob.
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