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religion is so great, doo-dah doo-dah (pg. 5)
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| eRRaTiK |
There was once a time when none of the religions of today existed. Guess what, humanity survived.
Religion in itself is not good/bad. People are the problem.
"Gentleness, self-sacrifice and generosity are the exclusive possession of no one race or religion." -- Gandhi |
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| RJT |
do I hate threads like these.
To answer whoever the hell it was that asked why I thought Dawkins was a twat it's simply because he's every bit as closed minded as the people he rails against.
And with that, I'm done. You kids enjoy your little argument. |
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| trewqy |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
do I hate threads like these.
To answer whoever the hell it was that asked why I thought Dawkins was a twat it's simply because he's every bit as closed minded as the people he rails against.
And with that, I'm done. You kids enjoy your little argument. |
Amen Brother! |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by fayraree
because you will never understand its merits |
there arent any merits of developing statutes from superstition. laws should be able to stand by themselves, without the need to be propped up by unsubstantiated magicks. |
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| zoogla |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
unsubstantiated magicks. |
lol at your wizard-talk :p
...you made me think a little further about my last post and I was thinking about how devout a Christian Dubya is...then I was wondering how many atheists you can find in the 3 levels of government: executive, legislative, and judiciary in all the liberal democratic countries in the world. You'll probably find more of them in Germany and France, but not that many in Canada, UK, Australia, and the U.S. I would expect. Generations of law makers and law defenders in these systems perpetuate these values you love so much because THEY have the ethical values brought to them by religion. Otherwise they wouldn't have been elected or selected.
As an atheist, you are part of a very small minority and the very principles that you want to apply globally are enjoyed due to the efforts of, by and large, God-fearing people.
So you can theorize all you want about the detachment of religion and the law, but directly (i.e. Sharia) or indirectly (the west) it is omnipresent. |
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| R!CH |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
do I hate threads like these. |
so i don't get it... do you enjoy exposing yourself to things you hate or do you just lack the self control to stay away? |
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| RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by R!CH
so i don't get it... do you enjoy exposing yourself to things you hate or just lack the self control to stay away? |
A little of both. |
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| R!CH |
| whoa that was fast... |
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| zoogla |
| quote: | Originally posted by R!CH
whoa that was fast... |
lol |
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| Ang ' ela_ie |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
do I hate threads like these.
To answer whoever the hell it was that asked why I thought Dawkins was a twat it's simply because he's every bit as closed minded as the people he rails against.
And with that, I'm done. You kids enjoy your little argument. |
Well, if its only the two extremes that are getting published then I choose Dawkins. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by fayraree
Generations of law makers and law defenders in these systems perpetuate these values you love so much because THEY have the ethical values brought to them by religion. |
utter nonsense. religion has nothing to do with the evolution of "moral" values. religious people just like to think this. think about some of the moral "laws" set out by those who wrote the koran and bible (for instance).
there are plenty of guidelines we dismiss because they are completely alien to our modern view of morality. we set these "laws" aside due to rational thought.
religion is not responsible for values. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by fayraree
So you can theorize all you want about the detachment of religion and the law, but directly (i.e. Sharia) or indirectly (the west) it is omnipresent. |
Good job trying to conflate the historical origin of a system with the logical foundation of a system.
That kind of bull won't fly with intelligent people, though.  |
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