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How many Christians understand Jesus’ teachings? (pg. 3)
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| weymouth |
| Eh. Art shouldn't hit you over the head with its meaning, it should be a little more subtle than that. A better painting would of been a muslim woman in full garb getting her feet washed by a stranger that has his back turned to the painting. I think that would be more powerful to the viewer than what is above. |
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| RickyM |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
Many of those are only contradictions given a rather narrow reading of the Bible.
Literal interpretations of the Bible are ill advised. |
I didn't name any specific contradictions, so I don't see how you can call it a narrow reading of the bible ;)
And as for literal interpretations...how then do you decide what parts are to be taken literally and which are not?
What are you beliefs by the way, regarding the Bible? |
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| sterilis |
gather the troops for suicide bombings. this is blasphemy!! :D
god, jesus and his disciples. im surprised theres young people still believe this nonsense. |
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| tubularbills |
sigh, here we go again
ps, the washing of the feet doesn't happen around Advent time, yet, it was during the Easter Season. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by RickyM
And as for literal interpretations...how then do you decide what parts are to be taken literally and which are not? |
It's often far from clear what "taking it literally" entails, except in really obvious cases like "10,000 Moabites were slain." It's easy to find contradictions between numerical things like that, since different books of the Bible often describe the same events through the perspective of different writers. "Chronicles" and "Kings," for example.
There are so many things that need to be taken into account for an informed interpretation of most religious writings: the beliefs and experiences of the audience for the original writings, literary and historical context, translation issues, interpretations of past believers and scholars, and so on. It's pretty silly to think that you can just casually reach across a few thousand years of history and immediately get a solid handle on what the writer meant. |
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| RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by RickyM
I didn't name any specific contradictions, so I don't see how you can call it a narrow reading of the bible ;)
And as for literal interpretations...how then do you decide what parts are to be taken literally and which are not?
What are you beliefs by the way, regarding the Bible? |
I should have been more clear - I didn't mean your interpretation of the bible, I mean for there to be any contradictions at all requires the individual reading the source to interpret it in a relatively narrow view, regardless of who it is.
My view on literal interpretation of the Bible is simply that it shouldn't be done - and those who engage in such activities are really not acknowledging the more subtle aspects of the writing, nor the fact that there have been 2000 or so odd years for many, many men to change, edit, distort, etc. just what goes into the Bible (this is especially relevant considering the Bible wasn't even initially written in English - something many, many evangelicals seem to fail to realize upon making bold claims about what the Bible compels them to do).
That being said, I read the Bible with the same skepticism I do any philosophical work that has to do with ethics, morality, or metaphysics - given certain views, there is an infinite amount of goodness within it, unfortunately there are few people out there who read it with such an open mind - hence it being the center of controversy in much of the atheists vs. Christians debate.
And lol @ Will closing his other thread because people didn't care about the original article - and at calling me "high & mighty."
Well done. :stongue:
Where's the forum for it, BTW?
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| Clovis |
Just a minute everyone, I've got to make some micro-wave popcorn.
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Edit: holy Rob that signature is almost as crazy as mine... |
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| tubularbills |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
I should have been more clear - I didn't mean your interpretation of the bible, I mean for there to be any contradictions at all requires the individual reading the source to interpret it in a relatively narrow view, regardless of who it is.
My view on literal interpretation of the Bible is simply that it shouldn't be done - and those who engage in such activities are really not acknowledging the more subtle aspects of the writing, nor the fact that there have been 2000 or so odd years for many, many men to change, edit, distort, etc. just what goes into the Bible (this is especially relevant considering the Bible wasn't even initially written in English - something many, many evangelicals seem to fail to realize upon making bold claims about what the Bible compels them to do).
That being said, I read the Bible with the same skepticism I do any philosophical work that has to do with ethics, morality, or metaphysics - given certain views, there is an infinite amount of goodness within it, unfortunately there are few people out there who read it with such an open mind - hence it being the center of controversy in much of the atheists vs. Christians debate.
And lol @ Will closing his other thread because people didn't care about the original article - and at calling me "high & mighty."
Well done. :stongue:
Where's the forum for it, BTW?
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1) i wasn't referring to you as high and mighty. although you are my second God, and i should worship the ground you walk on, the real deal upstairs comes first, sorry bro; and
2) the less religion discuss in the c0r, i think the better. but if you, mrbojivebangles, spc, and halcyonononon want to continue your discussion, by all means make your own thread. :D
3) http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/....php?forumid=66
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| Dangit, I just accidentally closed my William James thread. Hopefully a mod can reopen it. |
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| tubularbills |
| you can reopen it yourself... |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| It won't let me. Says I don't have permission. |
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| tubularbills |
| hmm...well how about that |
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