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Beatmatching Question (pg. 3)
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| Allied Nations |
| quote: | Originally posted by JD8180
to my understanding there's no exact number. on estimate it can be between .8% and .6% per 1 whole bpm, but it all depends on the original bpm of the track. a .8% change of a 120 bpm track will give you a different amount of change compared to .8% change of 140 bpm. |
ok you might be right but the .8 system works well for at least 95% of songs from reputable digital sources (beatport, official promos etc)
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track A is 124- at +.8% you're going to be at 125-
mixing into track b which is 127, should be -1.6%
not something to live and die by, but a very useful, in my experience almost entirely accurate guide- for me this is where the .02 resolution comes in handy- makes those little adjustments that much easier. |
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| callme:gsmile: |
| or you can use the peter hook technique and twitch like michael j fox on speed and everything does itself. |
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| xiad |
| one way I have found to be helpfull is to turn down the lows on the incoming track and turn up the highs quite a bit...that way you can hear the hats, which imo give you a more accurate feel than kickdrums...try it out...it works wonders!!! |
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| JD8180 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Allied Nations
ok you might be right but the .8 system works well for at least 95% of songs from reputable digital sources (beatport, official promos etc)
for ex.
track A is 124- at +.8% you're going to be at 125-
mixing into track b which is 127, should be -1.6%
not something to live and die by, but a very useful, in my experience almost entirely accurate guide- for me this is where the .02 resolution comes in handy- makes those little adjustments that much easier. |
i mean yeah, not saying you were wrong. .8% is just an estimate, then you fine tune it; i do the same exact thing. but i was just correcting the fact that you said it's exactly .8% per bpm.
if you play around 125 bpm tracks then it's fine, but the further up you go in bpm's, it's going to be a bit more off.
i was just stating this in case some one read that and followed it. that if the live track is 128 bpm and the cued track is 130 bpm, they would just have to change it by -1.6% and it'll be perfectly beat matched. |
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| SebG |
Maybe im ing retarded
You saying that you guys dont use this? (crossfader)?
WTF
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| callme:gsmile: |
i have mine disabled...its totally useless for me.
Real men use rotary:p |
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| tortoise |
| quote: | Originally posted by SebG
Maybe im ing retarded
You saying that you guys dont use this? (crossfader)?
WTF
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nah i just use up faders. It is useful if u want to scratch though. |
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| nefardec |
no
i don't know anyone who does on the other side of the hip hop fence |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| yeah, i only use upfaders. then again all i do is mix track to track. |
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| Nemesis44 |
| quote: | Originally posted by SebG
Maybe im ing retarded
You saying that you guys dont use this? (crossfader)?
WTF
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Nope you are not retarted at all... if in doubt ask. Always best. :)
But you are correct, we do not use the crossfader.
It will seem a bit alien at first but if you try it you will soon work out why.
It opens up the EQ and gain control in a very different ways and the control you have over the mix and overall levels is infinately better.
Try it, trust me.
Cheers
Nem |
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| callme:gsmile: |
| If you want to see the difference, the best thing to do is record yourself. Once you get the transitions down without touching the crossfader you will be able to notice a huge difference in the quality of your mixing. Get handy enough with it, and you will be able to do alot more via layering and such. These techniques are very messy with the crossfader. After you are comfortable wnough with it you can start learning that for seamless 1+1 = 3 will take you to another level. Hope this made sense, as per usual ive been drinking. |
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