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Liver drug could benefit heavy drinkers
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| 2tall |
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| DJ_JB |
:haha: Only you, now there is no reason for you to turn down a drink :tongue2 |
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| R!CH |
| i've just been using alpha lipoic acid, which is a tremendously powerful antioxidant that also has liver (and artery) protecting qualities. combined with acetyl l-carnitine, it packs a helluva punch in protecting nearly every cell in your body :cool: i tend to favor these organic compounds over untested synthetic pharmaceuticals |
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| |Thrax| |
| You're a walking natural ing pharmacy Rich. |
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| rizo |
| quote: | Originally posted by |Thrax|
You're a walking natural ing pharmacy Rich. |
ya seriously :stongue: |
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| R!CH |
| heh, well i have this somewhat irrational fear of ever having to experience a heart attack, stroke, embolism, cancer, organ failure or other degernative disease. and lucky for us we are amongst the very first generation to live in the age of life-extending preventative medicine and it's very well possible that our generation can live beyond 120-year mark with what's out on the suppliment market today. but just like with cars, you can only expect to achieve such high mileage if you protect the integrity of your genetic code from hypermutation and necrosis from the very get-go. alcohol being a liver and brain toxin that we all enjoy liberally on the weekends kind of put me on the path to researching ways to offset such damage. i think it's a good investment to know how your body/mind will begin to fail with age and how you can be proactive about it. especially with the amount of toxins we all encounter in our everyday environment, and that's prior to all the partying ;) |
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| S Nate Faulkner |
| quote: | | i tend to favor these organic compounds over untested synthetic pharmaceuticals |
That is one of the most ignorant things I've read in a while.
These "untested synthetci pharmaceuticals" are tested for years and years at great expense before they are allowed on the market by the FDA. It's the "organic compounds" that are almost completely untested since the have the cop-out of "not meant to diagnose or cure" BS.
Good luck with your phobias. Try and do some actual two-sided research. Of course, no amount of research into spiders will make me stop being creeped out by them... |
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| R!CH |
| quote: | Originally posted by S Nate Faulkner
That is one of the most ignorant things I've read in a while.
These "untested synthetci pharmaceuticals" are tested for years and years at great expense before they are allowed on the market by the FDA. It's the "organic compounds" that are almost completely untested since the have the cop-out of "not meant to diagnose or cure" BS.
Good luck with your phobias. Try and do some actual two-sided research. Of course, no amount of research into spiders will make me stop being creeped out by them... |
true there are thousands of supplements on the market, most of them are unnecessary and a lot of them have untested claims, but none of the ones i've mentioned fall into that category. there's a pretty substantial mountain of clinical data that supports the benefits of ala and alc. hell the fact that ala occurs naturally in healthy meats and veggies should serve as your test. the best argument you can make is that the supplement market doesn't have any regulatory body to ensure quality. that's where your sourcing comes into play.
if you trust everything the fda approves, then lol good for you. i however am pretty cynical of a system that is financially-dependent on the companies whose products they're supposed to be scrutinizing. we're talking about the same regulatory body that considers arsenic a safe chickenfeed for human-consumed chickens, but that's another discussion altogether. regulation aside, i think you can agree that organic compounds beat out chemical cocktails for supplementation purposes. |
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| S Nate Faulkner |
ah jeez, here we go again...thankfully I have a nearly full bottle of kettle one to make retarded claims with...flame on...
| quote: | | the best argument you can make is that the supplement market doesn't have any regulatory body to ensure quality. that's where your sourcing comes into play. |
| quote: | | regulation aside, i think you can agree that organic compounds beat out chemical cocktails for supplementation purposes. |
Are you a chemist? a doctor? a nutritionist even (like that is even a credible occupation)?
I know I am not. Therefore I have to trust my goverment mandated panel of said experts (which I know up a lot, but they are trying). So what you are REALLY afraid of is your government?
I would trust these overpaid, possibly corrupt, yet definatly highly educated g-men than any ing woo-woo freak with a crystal living on the beach or working fro minimum wage any day. |
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| R!CH |
with all my supps, i try to maintain no more than a 3-4 day a week on/off cycle, sometimes even less frequent when my lifestyle calls for it. i don't have any experience with the small-bottle formula brands, they tend to be overpriced and i'm weary of the fact there are so many brands out there that no one's even heard of. i buy mine from www.trueprotein.com in 100 gram tubs of powder and cap them myself with rice paper capsules. |
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