Oh my god what a ing piece of he is. :stongue: :stongue:
God damn. I thought that was a joke ad untill the end...jesus christ.
jupiterone
Meh, don't get me wrong Rudy is alright in some aspects but I totally agree with Paul when it comes to why people attacked us on 9/11. Take for instance if someone were to build something in your backyard you don't really approve of; you'd get it removed immediately. Rudy came to sugar coat the topic with saying "I was there during the attacks, I know better than anyone else". Okay, you were there but the U.S has been really policing the world by imposing their policies. It is really obvious why we are treated the way we are by other countries. It really has nothing to do with the amount of money and freedom the country has, because to me, the U.S is as free as most other countries around the world. If not a bit less free. The system is, in my opinion, VERY flawed.
I'm not saying Ron Paul is the perfect candidate because he is NOT. He has his flaws but I like the fact he speaks his mind. Other candidates like to tell Americans what they want to hear. In this case, sugar coating the truth by making it seem we had absolutely NOTHING to do with why we were attacked.
jonSun
^^^ dont sit on the fence & wait to be blown up by a crazy muslim terrorist. They are everywhere including your backyard. Be vigilant. Be smart. Vote for a true leader America needs so we can win the war on terror.
jupiterone
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Originally posted by jonSun
^^^ dont sit on the fence & wait to be blown up by a crazy muslim terrorist. They are everywhere including your backyard. Be vigilant. Be smart. Vote for a true leader America needs so we can win the war on terror.
The way to win terror is to get the man in your avatar to sell them some KFC. They would fall in love with America from that point on.:p
jonSun
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Originally posted by jupiterone
The way to win terror is to get the man in your avatar to sell them some KFC. They would fall in love with America from that point on.:p
i cant sell KFC per the Patriot Act. :(
Lesbianosaur
I'm looking forward to an Obama/Biden ticket.
There was a really interesting discussion on the McLaughlin group this morning about a comment Huckabee made in the debate last night. When asked about Obama, Huckabee said that you really have to hand it to the guy that he doesn't view things as a horizontal spectrum between conservatives and liberals, that he has been able to reach people vertically across party lines instead.
The quote: ["We have to recognize that what Senator Obama has done is touch on a core of what America has done," he said. "America is looking for vertical leadership that looks up not down.... He has excited a lot of voters in this country and lets pay respect for that.
"We better be careful as a party if we don't give people something to be for, and not just things to be against, we are going lose the next election," Huckabee said.]
It's interesting also that a number of conservative thinkers (including George Will, Peggy Noonan, etc.) have already pledged that they would vote for Obama over Huckabee.
I don't think it is accurate to say that Obama is just another run-of-the-mill Democratic candidate.
But he won my support earlier this week through something he said in 2003:
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Geoffrey R. Stone
An Obama Moment
Posted January 4, 2008 | 11:49 AM (EST)
In 1991, when Barack Obama was a third-year student at the Harvard Law School, I was serving as Dean of the University of Chicago Law School. I had heard through the grapevine that there was an extraordinarily talented African-American student at Harvard who was president of the Harvard Law Review and who was planning to come to Chicago after graduation to do public service law and to write a book about his experiences as a community organizer.
After checking with some members of the Harvard faculty, who assured me that this fellow Obama was, indeed, remarkable, I invited him to become a Visiting Law and Government Fellow at the University of Chicago Law School. This would give him support for his research and connect him officially to the Law School. He accepted, and over the next dozen years Obama became a Senior Lecturer at the University of Chicago Law School and a highly respected and much admired teacher of Constitutional Law, while at the same time pursuing his other interests.
In 2003, having served several highly successful terms in the Illinois legislature, Obama announced his candidacy for the Democratic nomination for the United States Senate. This seemed to me an utterly hopeless quest. Peter Fitzgerald, the Republican incumbent, seemed unbeatable, the Democratic field had already drawn several very strong candidates with more established statewide reputations than Obama, and Obama had recently failed in his effort to unseat Bobby Rush as the Congressman from Chicago's Hyde Park neighborhood. Obama's candidacy for the Senate seemed pointless.
Shortly after Obama announced his candidacy for the Senate, I attended (and, indeed, co-hosted) a major fundraising event in Chicago for the William Jefferson Clinton Foundation. At one point, I spotted Obama moving gracefully through the crowd, chatting amiably with each individual, dutifully pressing the flesh. As I observed him, I thought to myself, "What a waste. This is demeaning. Barack should forget politics and become a full-time law professor. Then he could really make something of himself."
A few minutes later, I found myself standing next to Obama at the shrimp bowl. Although it was really none of my business, I decided to impart some of my wisdom. "Barack," I said, "I've been watching you out there, making nice to all these folks. Why are you doing this? Given the realities of politics, you know as well as I that there's no chance you'll get the nomination, let alone defeat Fitzgerald. Why don't you just pack all this in and accept a full-time position on the faculty?" Barack smiled and thoughtfully replied, "Geof, I know where you're coming from, but, you know, I have to do this. I believe I can make a difference. I have a responsibility to try." As he blended back into the crowd, I thought, "What a waste."
Not ambition, but a responsibility - a duty - to help make America a better place. I liked him already, but he locked up my support.
jonSun
Another even better reason to Vote for Rudy.
Lesbianosaur
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Originally posted by jonSun
Another even better reason to Vote for Rudy.
damn lol
Omega_M
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Originally posted by jonSun
Another even better reason to Vote for Rudy.
Dayauum. Got me. :stongue:
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jupiterone
I don't see with all the technology we have why we supposedly haven't found Osama yet? :conf: