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Violence (pg. 2)
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| Turbonium |
Man, what's with all your pseudo-intellectual threads lately? You're severely shrinking my e-penis (and strangely enlarging my real penis, rawr).
Seriously though, stop this smartypants crap This is the c0r after all. Take your elitist banter elsewhere more deserving of it, before I break your ing neck. |
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| Space Marine |
| Stop smoking pot. |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| quote: | Originally posted by Turbonium
Man, what's with all your pseudo-intellectual threads lately? You're severely shrinking my e-penis (and strangely enlarging my real penis, rawr).
Seriously though, stop this smartypants crap This is the c0r after all. Take your elitist banter elsewhere more deserving of it, before I break your ing neck. |
To take your post seriously, it is a very slow time of year for the hospitality business. So I have little else to do to effectively entertain myself apart from posting pseudo-intellectual discourse on boards where I value a very minute portion of the opinions I will likely receive and respond to.
Also, are you aware of the irony in making physical threats at me while in a thread on violence? Perhaps you are. In any case, you are a monkey.
To take your post accurately, however, dicks. In addition, dicks. Furthermore, dicks. And in conclusion... dicks. That is all. |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| quote: | Originally posted by Space Marine
Stop smoking pot. |
You don't mean that and you know it. :toothless |
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| Dj O'Callaghan |
| quote: | Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
For the sake of discussion - why is this an "unfortunate" dynamic? The concept, itself, implies that there is no such thing as "fortune" anyways - there is power exertion and those who partake of the means to employ it to their benefit as well as those who allow themselves to be governed by it.
With this realization in mind, why do you not use violence, deception, and whatever means nature has provided you with to benefit yourself over others? Natural law would have us believe that only the fittest survive - why would you willingly subjugate yourself to be only the pawn of those who would lord over your will? Is this not a weakness? If it is so intrinsic to the human condition and our history as a civilzation, what difference will things such as "morals" really make upon the mark of the world? Might as well enjoy yourself and revel in violence and desire, as it makes no difference, no? |
I've got in plenty of fights however I've grown to hate violence, especially when you've seen too much of it. I tell you one thing it's not much fun walking constantly looking over your shoulder or having to avoid certain places. It should only be used as last resort in a survival situation not for the pure sake of it.
Weakness to me is if someone cracks under peer pressure to commit violence in a group. Mob violence is the biggest form of cowdice in my eyes especially when it's unprovoked. It happens too much be it walking down the wrong street at the wrong time or looking at someone the wrong way.
There is times when I question justice. At times I think the use of violence on those who cause suffering through violence against the innocent or weak should get it back ten fold. Especially in a situation where five people have beaten someone to death for no reason and get a poxy five years each. However at the end of the day though wishing things like that would make me as bad as them. |
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| Space Marine |
| quote: | Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
You don't mean that and you know it. :toothless |
Hahha yeah.  |
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| Zild |
| Violence is a wonderful tool, but you should only use it as a last resort. Manipulation and social maneuvering are more powerful tools. |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| Indeed, it is far more prudent to urge others to committ violence for you. But in the end, the exertion remains the same - and the society behind that great fear still trembles in the face of physical destruction, unable to grasp the implications of being proselytized by the obliteration of ego. |
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| Zild |
| Unfortunately we live in a society where what you earn is what you take by force. |
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| Arbiter |
Violence has a seductiveness to it. As a means to an end it is crude but among the most effective (in some cases the most effective.) Yet it inevitably reminds us of our own vulnerability, which engenders a distaste for it proportional to one's insecurity.
Those most averse to violence are those who are, on the one hand, most able to manifest their will by other means, and, on the other hand, who feel most naked at the realization of their own mortality. In contrast, those most prone to violence are the ones who are otherwise most impotent, and who are also most secure in their own vulnerability. Of course, most fall somewhere in the middle...
The virtue of peace is just the virtue of charity transposed -- the man who does not employ violence reduces his own power relative to those around him. It should surprise no one that those around him are in favor of that. Of course, this dynamic has been totally abstracted: it is now part of what we call "morality." But what is that morality if not an instruction manual on how to be as weak as one can be? |
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| Surfmorworkless |
| I like this thread it's interesting.Although it does seem rather along the lines of not believing in God and such.I mean earlier in the thread the comments on evolution and such.Not to instigate my own point of view on matters, but has anyone thought about the biblical side on these matters?Not just biblical but any kind of religion?For one if you take the biblical point of view it states that God hates violence.Although he has used it in multiple ocassions.:toothless Or maybe i'm out in left field altogether.If so just tell me. I'll shut up.:D |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| quote: | Originally posted by Surfmorworkless
Not to instigate my own point of view on matters |
By all means. Instigate.
If you ask me, it takes a very detached viewpoint to see things as they are; to see any "truth" of sorts. So yes, I would ask that you separate yourself from the idea of God owning and judging you in order to fully understand the violence of our being, as traditional thought would most certainly impart a certain bond of the mind with incentive to please, incentive to serve.
You are right though - God is a powerful force of destruction, in its own history. The will to create as well as destroy. Did he infuse his little Earthen creatures with this same will? Are we exclusive to thinking that we have some understanding of its process or are we as much in the dark as the dark side of His moon? Maybe one day He'll come out of hiding and let us know. Until then, we are just lonely creatures, eking out an existence furnished with small bits of light at some dark part of His universe; prone to violence, prone to the illusion that denying the rites of Nature serve His will. |
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