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| xxonemanriotxx |
| I've heard of Producers using this in their music. BT being one them. I don't understand what he means by time correcting though. How do you go about doing it? I've try to look it up, but I can't seem to find anything.:conf: |
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| Eric J |
It is just another term for time stretching. BT and others will go in and make very small edits to make sure a sample is "sample accurate" ,but any type of time stretching can be considered "time correcting".
Time correcting is probably a better term for it anyway, because I think of stretching as making a sample longer and when editing a sample to fit in time, you may not be stretching but shrinking. |
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| xxonemanriotxx |
| Cool! But does it make your music sound that much different? I heard its suppose to make your tracks really shine if you know how to do it properly. |
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| Lolo |
time correction is very good for beats and plucked strings like guitars, basses, but also pianos, essentially.
When using compressors you can hear a huge difference on uncorrected loops and clips because of their flamming.
Beat flamming is a producer's nightmare at times. Flamming means that some of the sounds get played too early or too late, which means that they will take more space in the mix once you put a compressor. When you time-correct, you just align those sounds to a grid then you have total control on the timing and a cleaner overall sound. At least you can add some flamming if it's really what you want (it works great on claps being pushed a few ticks earlier).
To be honest, with Ableton Live and elastic audio around, time correction has never been easier. But you have to make sure that you time correct everything. Once you get to hear the difference, you will never go back and you will even notice uncorrected to corrected beats.
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| Eric J |
Yeah well if your track is at 130 BPM and you are trying to fit in a sample at 120 BPM, you kind of HAVE to time correct it or its going to sound like a trainwreck. If you are just trying to fit a loop in there, then most advanced DAW software has the ability to time correct a sample for you using things like Beat Detective in Pro Tools or Convert Audio Regions to MIDI in Logic.
In regards to advanced time-correcting such as stutter edits and some of the stuff BT does, just take a listen to any of his works and the results speak for themselves.
It should be noted that when BT does things like stutter edits, he doesnt just chop up samples, he also applies loads of individualized processing, sometimes to each individual sample. I have heard him talk about taking days to work on a single 2 second edit.
I'm afraid thats about the best answer that I can give you. The term "time correcting" is very broad, so I can't really answer your question unless you are more specific. |
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| xxonemanriotxx |
| quote: | Originally posted by Eric J
Yeah well if your track is at 130 BPM and you are trying to fit in a sample at 120 BPM, you kind of HAVE to time correct it or its going to sound like a trainwreck. If you are just trying to fit a loop in there, then most advanced DAW software has the ability to time correct a sample for you using things like Beat Detective in Pro Tools or Convert Audio Regions to MIDI in Logic.
In regards to advanced time-correcting such as stutter edits and some of the stuff BT does, just take a listen to any of his works and the results speak for themselves.
It should be noted that when BT does things like stutter edits, he doesnt just chop up samples, he also applies loads of individualized processing, sometimes to each individual sample. I have heard him talk about taking days to work on a single 2 second edit.
I'm afraid thats about the best answer that I can give you. The term "time correcting" is very broad, so I can't really answer your question unless you are more specific. |
Thank you All for explaining this to me!
As far as asking a more specific question, I wouldn't know what to ask. I just wanted to understand what the term meant. I have definitely listened to BT's tracks. He is my absolute favorite producer. |
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| echosystm |
super accurate time correcting is over rated. do you think a live drummer time corrects himself?
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| No Left Turn |
| quote: | Originally posted by echosystm
super accurate time correcting is over rated. do you think a live drummer time corrects himself?
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Of course a drummer doesn't. The mixing engineer for his band does it. |
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| Lolo |
| quote: | Originally posted by echosystm
super accurate time correcting is over rated. do you think a live drummer time corrects himself?
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totally agree with you, but once you have total control on timing, isn't that easier to get what you want??
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| echosystm |
| quote: | Originally posted by No Left Turn
Of course a drummer doesn't. The mixing engineer for his band does it. |
you're missing the point. it is usually good to have some natural swing in your music. i dont know any rock producers who bother doing this.
how do you even make a drum hit sample accurate anyway? there are many samples at the beginning of a sound, infact, how do you even choose which transient to make "sample accurate"? just because there is one "first" transient, doesn't mean that's the one you want on beat.
i dunno, it all just sounds like a load of bs to me. if you have a really way-ward hit, then yeah you're going to warp it back into roughly the right position. talking about sample level editing for this is a waste of time imo and only goes into some weird zone of technical elitist wankerism. |
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| Lolo |
| quote: | Originally posted by echosystm
you're missing the point. it is usually good to have some natural swing in your music. i dont know any rock producers who bother doing this . |
we got your point here, but there are far more producers applying this time correction to any kind of music thank you might think.
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| Khayat |
Is there any tips or tricks in Time stretching in Ableton Live.I mean I know about warp markers etc etc but don't know when the stretching sounds right.I end up sending the audio file to other producers do it for me :D
Are there any rules? |
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