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| Krypton |
Strange turn of events....
I believe the US policy in the Middle East is 100X worse than the Iranian policy which is mostly to protect Palestinians from Israel's oppressive occupation of their homeland, and to protect Iranian sovereignty, which if we look at history, has been the victim of American interventionism (CIA-backed coup of DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED & SECULAR Mohammed Mossadegh; support of tyrannical Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi)...
All you "Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is the Hitler of Iran" fail to look at history or even politics in Iran, for which the Supreme Ayatollah makes the final state decision, not the president. Hitler had DICTATORIAL powers, unlike Ahmadinejad...
| quote: | Iranians threatened U.S. ships in Hormuz: Pentagon
By Andrew Gray 24 minutes ago
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Iranian boats aggressively approached three U.S. Naval ships in the Strait of Hormuz, a main shipping route for Gulf oil, at the weekend and threatened that the ships would "explode," U.S. officials said on Monday.
The Pentagon termed the action, involving five Iranian boats, "careless, reckless and potentially hostile" and said Tehran should provide an explanation, but Tehran dismissed U.S. concerns, saying it was a routine contact.
Vice Adm. Kevin Cosgriff, the commander of the U.S. Navy's Fifth Fleet, which is responsible for operations in the Gulf, said the Iranian boats moved aggressively toward the U.S. ships and their actions were "unduly provocative."
"The ships received a radio call that was threatening in nature, to the effect that they were closing on our ships and ... the U.S. ships would explode," Cosgriff told reporters at the Pentagon via videolink from his Bahrain headquarters.
The incident was the latest sign of tension between Washington and Tehran, at odds over a range of issues from Iran's nuclear program to U.S. allegations of Iranian support for terrorism and interference in Iraq. |
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080107...q2gF_rSAF4UewgF |
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| guerra-monstru |
| Didn't the US start the aggression with them moving aircraft carriers and other naval vessals close to the Iranian border? I really hope that the US doesn't go all bad-boy and decide to invade Iran and cause even more chaos out of selfishness. |
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| hardcore trancer |
| looks like the U.S is trying to bring the worlds attentions to Iran again. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Krypton
I believe the US policy in the Middle East is 100X worse than the Iranian policy which is mostly to protect Palestinians from Israel's oppressive occupation of their homeland, and to protect Iranian sovereignty, |
yeah! and who cares how many iraqi civilians had to die to protect that "sovereignty"! im not gonna sit here and laud the US' foreign policy, but let's not start holding iran up as a beacon of stability and peace or even protection in the region. unless of course supporting terrorism falls into any of those categories according to you? |
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| guerra-monstru |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
yeah! and who cares how many iraqi civilians had to die to protect that "sovereignty"! im not gonna sit here and laud the US' foreign policy, but let's not start holding iran up as a beacon of stability and peace or even protection in the region. unless of course supporting terrorism falls into any of those categories according to you? |
The US is more responsible for causing terrorism and supporting it in the ME than Iran's involvment. |
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| Zild |
| Being an American I know for a fact that if someone is state sponsored that it is automatically not considered terrorism because if it were then the US would be the biggest perpetrator of terrorism in the world today. But we aren't we're freedom fighters damnit! |
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| Krypton |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
yeah! and who cares how many iraqi civilians had to die to protect that "sovereignty"! im not gonna sit here and laud the US' foreign policy, but let's not start holding iran up as a beacon of stability and peace or even protection in the region. unless of course supporting terrorism falls into any of those categories according to you? |
No Operation Iraqi Freedom = No Shi'ite militias for Iran to support |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by guerra-monstru
The US is more responsible for causing terrorism and supporting it in the ME than Iran's involvment. |
so? did we miss my comment?
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im not gonna sit here and laud the US' foreign policy |
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| guerra-monstru |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
so? did we miss my comment? |
No:p What was meant by that is that you can't defend US for things going sour in the ME and that Iran isn't too blame......hope that helps |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by guerra-monstru
No:p What was meant by that is that you can't defend US for things going sour in the ME and that Iran isn't too blame......hope that helps |
im NOT defending the US. im taking issue with this
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Iranian policy which is mostly to protect Palestinians from Israel's oppressive occupation of their homeland, and to protect Iranian sovereignty |
which is just the most romantic twaddle ive read all day. |
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| Krypton |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
which is just the most romantic twaddle ive read all day. |
The US government makes no secret of its biased support for Israel. Iran pledges to support militia groups fighting Israeli occupation. How is that romantic? |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Krypton
The US government makes no secret of its biased support for Israel. Iran pledges to support militia groups fighting Israeli occupation. How is that romantic? |
i fail to see how funding groups/individuals that blow themselves up in crowded civilian areas equates to "fighting israeli occupation".
THAT is what is romantic about it, your terms of reference.
I also fail to see how fighting proxy wars via terrorist groups achieves anything but more bloodshed, and an increase in israeli military activity. how well did iran "protect" the people of lebanon (in the most recent israeli atrocities), considering it was a conflict they started?
i'd also like to know how their funding and assisiting of various terrorist groups in iraq adds to their "protection" of anyone? given that the biggest loser out of that particular conflict is the iraqi civilian.
just because america is often wrong, does NOT make her enemies right. |
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