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djm 400 vs djm 800 sound quality? (pg. 2)
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| i got big pants |
is there a sweet spot on the 800 like there was with the 5/600???
i remember when it was at about +2db...it was perfect. hopefully peaking at 0db is the best for this mixer? |
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| Soundwerks |
| quote: | Originally posted by miamitranceman
XLR and TRS are balanced which equals better sound. I think it has to do with the waves of sound being in balance but someone correct me if I'm wrong. |
No...it just means that XLR and TRS cables/connections have a ground...so it reduces audio hum and feedback. The sound quality isnt neccassarily "better" or "worse" between RCA and XLR/TRS. It is just that the balanced connections will have less hum, noise and feedback. |
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| Freak |
| quote: | Originally posted by i got big pants
is there a sweet spot on the 800 like there was with the 5/600???
i remember when it was at about +2db...it was perfect. hopefully peaking at 0db is the best for this mixer? |
Keep ALL channels and the master COMPLETELY out of the red.
Sadly, advice which 99.9% of Djs- A list or otherwise- seem to completely ing ignore- despite a big note underneath the x fader saying 'PLEASE keep out of the red'
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| Tony Morello |
| quote: | Originally posted by Freak
Keep ALL channels and the master COMPLETELY out of the red.
Sadly, advice which 99.9% of Djs- A list or otherwise- seem to completely ing ignore- despite a big note underneath the x fader saying 'PLEASE keep out of the red'
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i actually smacked a guest dj i brought in upside the head once for running the mixer in the red
i've have a couple speakers blown because douchebags run the mixer too hot and send amplified distorted signal to my speakers
high volumes don't blow speakers, distorted signals do
if you want more volume, turn up the amps, not the mixer
| quote: | Originally posted by Soundwerks
No...it just means that XLR and TRS cables/connections have a ground...so it reduces audio hum and feedback. The sound quality isnt neccassarily "better" or "worse" between RCA and XLR/TRS. It is just that the balanced connections will have less hum, noise and feedback. |
+1
when running a full system, it's always in your best interest to use the balanced connections instead of the RCAs |
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| Freak |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tony Morello
i actually smacked a guest dj i brought in upside the head once for running the mixer in the red
i've have a couple speakers blown because douchebags run the mixer too hot and send amplified distorted signal to my speakers
high volumes don't blow speakers, distorted signals do
if you want more volume, turn up the amps, not the mixer
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I can send you an extensive list of A listers who you shouldn't book in that case.... :( |
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| Ryan0751 |
Actually there are 3 wires: 2 signal wires twisted together, and a shield.
The signal is sent over the 2 wires, but one is in opposite polarity to the other. This is why they say it's "balanced". But yes, this is done to reduce any hum or interference you could pick up on the cable.
The thing is, it really only matters for long cable runs. For home use, you are very unlikely to notice a difference where your cables are probably under 12 feet.
| quote: | Originally posted by Soundwerks
No...it just means that XLR and TRS cables/connections have a ground...so it reduces audio hum and feedback. The sound quality isnt neccassarily "better" or "worse" between RCA and XLR/TRS. It is just that the balanced connections will have less hum, noise and feedback. |
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| Pinokio |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ryan0751
Actually there are 3 wires: 2 signal wires twisted together, and a shield.
The signal is sent over the 2 wires, but one is in opposite polarity to the other. This is why they say it's "balanced". But yes, this is done to reduce any hum or interference you could pick up on the cable.
The thing is, it really only matters for long cable runs. For home use, you are very unlikely to notice a difference where your cables are probably under 12 feet. |
so if the AMP is near the mixer, and the cable is shrto "12 feet or less", it won't make a difference from XLR or 1/4, even if it's in a club environment? |
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| Ryan0751 |
Nah, really won't. But you'll likely find XLR or 1/4" TRS connections on the amps, so you'd need RCA converters for that.
More than likely you'd just patch your mixer into whatever house mixer they have, provided it's not a POS. Sound guys don't want you to replace the mixer, it alters the entire tuning of the system.
| quote: | Originally posted by Pinokio
so if the AMP is near the mixer, and the cable is shrto "12 feet or less", it won't make a difference from XLR or 1/4, even if it's in a club environment? |
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| starboy |
| the 800 is just fine in the red, actually all djm's are |
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| Ryan0751 |
There's still NO REASON to EVER run ANY mixer in the red. Why would you even go there?
| quote: | Originally posted by starboy
the 800 is just fine in the red, actually all djm's are |
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| Freak |
| quote: | Originally posted by starboy
the 800 is just fine in the red, actually all djm's are |
Horse .
I could go into extensive details why, and how I know, , but suffice to say I really can't be bothered. |
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| Wraith |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ryan0751
There's still NO REASON to EVER run ANY mixer in the red. Why would you even go there? |
I'd imagine because alot of people can't be arsed watching their levels. |
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