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Respect for professor/courses? (AKA, how I made my interim prof upset today) (pg. 2)
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| biznology |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fibonacci
Kudos to you, most professors get mirked when students are as callous about their work as they should be. Students pay dearly for classes, and alot of professors have no appreciation for that. They think we should "appreciate" the material for its intrinsic values. Really, we're all there for the grades. That will make an intrinsic difference in my career, regardless if I actually know or remember the material.
Have any professors who insist you buy books, only to find out later they were "supplementary material" or written by the professor, and that it was not necessary or vital to class material? Yeah, thanks professor, it's not like I'm working my ass of working double midnight shifts making $6/hr just so I can afford your $100 book and $50 work of supplementary crap.
By the time I was a junior, I didn't buy books until a few weeks into the semester. By then I had a good idea of what books I actually needed, what I would need occasionally and thus could use the library, and what was an absolute waste of money.
Professors really can't relate, for the most part, for the plight of students. These guys make 6 figure salaries with tenure, and we're having ramen noodles for dinner. Right.
I had one professor my junior year, taking a neuroscience class, shortly before the beginning of the FINAL EXAM, tells us the other final for the other half of the class, all the answers were marked 'A'. So I'm going through, question by question... B... B... B... B... Hmm, I'm seeing a trend. I continue about 1/10th of the way through the test, and am adequately confident that the answers are all B. What a guy, giving us an easy way to boost our score. Must be nice to have tenure.
Wrong.
I failed my final, miserably. Since that point I've lost all respect for professors. I called him up and complained that what he did was wrong and I would go to the dean of the department and the university if necessary. You can't create a bias like that on a FINAL EXAM, much less any test or anything being graded. I was later able to boost my grade, but still it made an impact on my impression of college professors.
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wow...
most college classes these days aren't taught by six figure, tenured professors, and the point of school IS to learn something - even if you don't retain everything that was taught to you. if you think grades alone will get you wherever you want to go, but you were screwed by a multiple choice test...good luck| |
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| Pokit |
| I did something similar in a business class last semester. The professor set up a detailed explanation of how much every assignment was worth toward the total grade. Last day of class we were supposed to turn in a paper worth 5% of the grade along with the final. I turned in the final and no paper and the professor gave me a weird look and said "You're not turning in the paper??" And I smiled and said nope and walked out. |
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| tubularbills |
lol, i always did the same thing towards the end of the semester....figure out what i needed to get on the finals to get grade "X".
and if you're happy w/ a B, then what's the point of going further you know ? kinda like one of those tests where you needed to get 99% to get a B+ or whatever....not worth the effort, if you're satisfied w/ the regular grade.
welcome to rational thinking. |
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| Fibonacci |
| quote: | Originally posted by biznology
wow...
most college classes these days aren't taught by six figure, tenured professors, and the point of school IS to learn something - even if you don't retain everything that was taught to you. if you think grades alone will get you wherever you want to go, but you were screwed by a multiple choice test...good luck| |
...you can't be serious right? You really think the creme de la creme of political/social/industrial/economic elites are the SMARTEST people out there? They either got the best grades, sucked the best dick, kissed the right ass, or had a friend who kissed the right ass. It's hardly because they knew more neuroscience than I did.
The point of school may be to learn something, but nobody pays the tuition just to learn. If you paid $100,000+ for a less than 4.0 GPA, but retained very little of it, then you made great use of your time. Would you rather have a 4.0 GPA with little to no retention of the specific subjects you have learned, or a 3.0 and remember everything?
The only tangible thing you learn from college is how to be articulate and you learn how to learn.
Grades for the most part will get you where you want to go. What you actually know or do not know, as long as you do not convey that you are not intelligent... it doesn't really matter. a 4.0 high school gpa will get you into a top tier university, a top tier university will get you either a great job or a great graduate school. from there... etc etc etc. |
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| chimera66 |
| finish strong for the very least so they can like you. it never hurts to have someone of some type of imporatance to like you at the very least so you can use them later whether it be for recommendations or networking purposes...don't mean to sound like a user but it it true. |
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| tubularbills |
| quote: | Originally posted by chimera66
finish strong for the very least so they can like you. it never hurts to have someone of some type of imporatance to like you at the very least so you can use them later whether it be for recommendations or networking purposes...don't mean to sound like a user but it it true. |
it was just a general elective math prof.... |
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| chimera66 |
| quote: | Originally posted by tubularbills
it was just a general elective math prof.... |
meh you never know...i am a firm believer in not burning bridges of any sort. plus you could end up learning a lot from this prof. i got a prof to do independent study with me for free when he could easily have charged ~$60/hr and he helped me in every way possible with my fulbright application. i ended up learning a ton and now i know someone i can always go back to for recommendations. the problem is thinking that anyone is "just" anything |
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| jonze |
| our professors don't proctor the exams. they usually have the TA sit in. |
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| iammesol |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
I think this would also be an appropriate time for me to comment on how much I hate attendance policies at the college level. Frankly, I'm paying for the course - if I can meet every standard you set for having mastered the material expected of me, and the only thing you can downgrade me on is attendance, the problem is not with my attendance - it's with the professors course.
Basically the mentality for me is that if I can ace your class without showing up it's your fault, not mine. |
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| CleverName |
There are many pros and cons to consider and many if not most of them are true in their own right, meaning there's no real answer to your question.
The real question you should be asking yourself is: Do I care about the professor's opinion, and will the professor's opinion impact me or my future at all?
Do you what you're going to do, just make sure you're aware of and ok with the consequences |
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| iammesol |
| Josh speaks da' troof. Though I think Rob wanted to know what everyone else thought. |
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| mezzir |
I've taken so ridiculously many ty classes, I can definitely relate to this. Lol I did something similar to what rjt did, except i was going to fail it regardless of what i got on the final, so i didn't go :p
But yeah, I'm not entirely sure why I haven't lost complete faith in the college system yet. I've been at UMass for 3.5 years, and I got a few more, and I've experienced the lot of it for the most part, from profs that don't speak english to the boring prof who drooooooones ,lectures with the lights dimmed, and gives ridiculously hard tests, to a few actual good profs. Still though its that one thing that bugs me. I'm a student, and I'm PAYING to take classes. I am PAYING for THE SCHOOL's educational services, and yet my school has very little interest vested in my actual learning. Surprise surprise, umass gets very very little from its alumni! God i'm ing sick of college. |
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