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delobbo
MIDI = language
MID = pattern written for MIDI

are you guys talking about .MID files, perhaps?
hexadecimal
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Originally posted by Ben Brown
Placing notes in MIDI, "Writing MIDI", is writing the gestural notation for a specific track in the mix.

Sequencing is the process of arranging your track and its elements.

Funny, when those of us who were producing before 1999 did that on hardware, we still called it sequencing.
RJT
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Originally posted by hexadecimal
No. When someone is sequencing, I'd call it sequencing.


You feel free to keep trying buckaroo - I'm sure one of these days you'll accidentally come off sounding as intelligent as you try so very hard to.

:)
Ben Brown
quote:
Originally posted by hexadecimal
Funny, when those of us who were producing before 1999 did that on hardware, we still called it sequencing.



Let's hear some of your jams.
hexadecimal
quote:
Originally posted by Ben Brown
Let's hear some of your jams.

Seneca probably has some of my old garbage. I haven't had time to produce in years.
UWM
Ishkur is that you?
hexadecimal
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Originally posted by UWM
Ishkur is that you?

Yes.
denys envy
tony (darin epsilon) has a nice set-up, i'd wait for him to chime in.
neutron liar
"MIDI junkies! Gonna you up!"



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darin epsilon
Hey RJT,

I have experimented with Logic, Ableton Live, Propellerhead Reason, FL Studio, and Cubase SX. Every program has its pros and cons, there is no software that simply has it all. I learned most of what I know off of Cubase SX (nearly tore my hairs out), and decided it just wasn't for me.

Now I'm currently rewiring Ableton Live and Propellerhead Reason together. Afterwards I usually bounce the audio into Logic for the final mixdown. I find Reason's Redrum capabilities to be the absolute best out of all sequencing softwares. It mimics a simple drum machine and you can create a hot loop in less than 5 minutes. I like Ableton Live mostly because of its effects and easy looping and pitch-shifting abilities. Seriously, there's no other program that even comes close.

I originally posted some of my own observations on pros and cons for each of these sequencing softwares on ProgressiveHouse.com, but I copied it over for simplicity. The moral of the story is just to experiment and find what fits you the best.



ABLETON LIVE

Major Strengths:
-Great at getting ideas together quickly because of its warping and pitch shifting capabilities.
-No other program comes even close in terms of looping.
-Wicked built-in effects that you can play with forever.
-Ableton's automation capabilities are amongst the best.

Major Weaknesses:
-Out of all sequencing programs I personally feel Ableton Live has the WORST sound quality. Often times the bass and kick drum will be rumbling unpredictably.
-Compressor and EQ are particularly weak.
-CPU resources hog

PROPELLERHEAD REASON

Major Strengths:
-Great built-in effects racks and instruments.
-Very easy layout, easy to learn
-Very light load on CPU usage
-Contains one of the best mastering suites ever

Major Weaknesses:
-No audio capabilities, this means no recording hardware. Dropping audio samples is incredibly inefficient.
-You can't use VSTs or other external instruments.

CUBASE SX

Major Strengths:
-Cubase has a real mixer which allows you to create more professional mixdowns. Bussing is also possible.
-Slick layout, very intuitive, very easy on the eyes.
-Great sound quality.
-Has built-in audio editor, Ableton and Reason do not.

Major Weaknesses:
-Terribly expensive, be ready to drop over $1000
-Comes with bare-bones instruments and VSTs built-in. Why did I pay that $1000 again???
-High learning curve, prepare to be frustrated with all the buttons and knobs.
-Bounced audio never sounds quite the same as within the Cubase project. Can't figure this one out.
-Requires USB dongle key to activate, this can get rather annoying, especially if you lose that dongle.

LOGIC STUDIO

Major Strengths:
-Comes loaded with samples, built-in instruments and VSTs, effects, and loops. For $500 this is completely worth the money.
-Crisp sound quality, and no major surprises when bouncing the audio, unlike Cubase.
-Has built-in audio editor, Ableton and Reason do not.
-No USB key needed.

Major Weaknesses:
-Steep learning curve, similar to Cubase. The user manuals combined are thousands of pages long.
-Exclusive to Mac. Sorry PC users.
-Takes half your life to install.

darin epsilon
Sorry for the way long post. Hope you found it helpful, Mr. Turner :) If you need any help, don't hesitate to ask, there's quite a lot of capable producers here on MWTA. There is of course a whole range of topics that we haven't even touched upon, like gear (monitor speakers, keyboards, MIDI controllers, soundcards, microphones), VSTs and instruments, and so on and so forth.
RJT
Indeed. That's why I asked here instead of the production forum ;)

Thanks a ton Tony - I'm probably just going to pay the $200 for the upgrade pack to Ableton 7 (I own 4), since I'm most familiar with that.

:)
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