Originally posted by nomore
Ask yourself these questions: I'm mainly targeting the "old partiers".
1. When I go out, am I one of the oldest people in the room?
WHO CARES?
2. Am I over thirty and most of my friends are in their early to mid 20's? WHO CARES?
3. Are most of my friends that ARE my age unemployed, working crap jobs or have unrealistic goals (like "I want to be an actor... but have no training etc...)
WHO CARES?
4. Am I slowly losing my "old friends"?
UNRELATED TO CLUBBING, LIFE HAPPENS THAT WAY OFTEN
5. Am I having a difficult time making ends meet?
UNRELATED TO CLUBBING, LIFE HAPPENS THAT WAY OFTEN
6. Am I REALLY happy?
IS ANYONE IN THIS SOCIETY? REALLY?
7. Are my friends REALLY my friends (can I have a conversation about anything other than when the next time Tiesto comes to town)?
[FRIENDS TEND TO BE FRIENDS BASED ON COMMON INTERESTS]
8. Am I periodically DEPRESSED? The reason you're depressed is because that's what ecstacy withdrawl does to you... especially 3-4 days after your last dose...
OR IT COULD BE THE LONG WINTER? OR THE STRESS AT WORK?
9. Do I need drugs to have fun? (or can I party "sober"). If you can't party sober, then it isn't "actually" fun...
Good question to ask yourself about booze as well. And fun is fun whether with or without. Each person makes their own fun in their own way
I could go on but I'm sure by now you get my point. If you are pushing 30 or already well into your thirties, this is your WAKE UP CALL. DID YOU KNOW THAT MOST PEOPLE IN THE WORLD CONSIDER THEIR EARLY 30S TO BE IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR CLUBBING LIFESPAN? WAKE UP FROM WHAT? IF YOU ARE HAVING A GOOD TIME ON WEEKENDS AND WORKING DURING THE WEEK THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH 30 SOMETHINGS TO GO OUT AND DO IT UP THE WAY THEY SEE FIT. WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS THAT 30 SOMETHINGS SHOULD GET BEATEN DOWN AND FALL INTO THE TYPICAL NORTH AMERICAN LIFESTYLE OF WORKING LIKE A DOG, PAYING TAXES AND WATCHING RERUNS OF SURVIVOR. WHO ARE YOU TO ADVOCATE WHAT "FUN AND HAPPINESS IS?"
Get with it. Break the cycle. Get some new friends and find some REAL happiness.
OR CONTINUE THE WAY YOU ARE IF THAT TRULY MAKES YOU HAPPY NO MATTER WHAT OTHERS THINK
Cheers and good luck.
nomore
This is where differing opinions are going to rage WIDELY. Some would say that once a week is OK, while other would say once a month, or once every two months.. or an Annual Party...
Myself, I guess I'd set a "cutoff" at once a year. I guess that would be "responsible". Take it as you will.
Thing is. The scene is dominated by early to late 20 somethings and there's a reason for that...
Just read the first post and see if you fall into that category. It's as simple as that. I understand that some people might get their back up against the wall and become defensive or lash out at me and my point of view. Maybe it's because they read the questions and can say "yes" to some of them.... and it's a moment of realization... denial....
or maybe they just think I'm FLAT OUT WRONG.
Either way, at least they are thinking and I'm OK with being wrong.
This debate is needed for SOME of you, not all of you.
Cheers.
Superstring
Maxx-No More
Superstring
I dunno why I did that one above... but anyhow.
Your point is well taken. But then people just need to think for themselves.
There always are people that are careful not to let partying to get in the way, and there's always a few that fail at recognizing when to stop...
What can you do, that's life. I do think that friends of "irresponsible" users should help out and try to pull their friends away from the scene if it's affecting the life of someone that much.. That's what friends are for.
nomore
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Originally posted by Superstring
Maxx-No More
LOL!!! Thanks for that! Hilarious.
A also agree with your above post. I just think that there might be some cases where your friends might be in the same boat as you and you might need to read a post like this one to "make you think". That's all.
Irishaddict
a little bit of awareness never hurt to post - good stuff :)
i think if you're gonna get trounced on, it's for the most part people trying to justify their own behaviour (or just the regular anticipated and predictable internet bullies that troll and thrive here). i don't think this was meant to be an attack though, so i wouldn't take those too personally. and for the trouncers - if you can keep the balance, why the need to justify it on here? the actions speak for themselves. like the poster said, if they can reach out to one person who is floundering right now - this post served its purpose. lol, so much hate!
Gen3r4l1ty
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Originally posted by Irishaddict
a little bit of awareness never hurt to post - good stuff :)
i think if you're gonna get trounced on, it's for the most part people trying to justify their own behaviour (or just the regular anticipated and predictable internet bullies that troll and thrive here). i don't think this was meant to be an attack though, so i wouldn't take those too personally. and for the trouncers - if you can keep the balance, why the need to justify it on here? the actions speak for themselves. like the poster said, if they can reach out to one person who is floundering right now - this post served its purpose. lol, so much hate!
Hate makes you lol?
Anyways... The reason he's catching flak for the post isn't because of his view, but because he failed to acknowledge the opposing side as being in any way legitimate. He's demonizing those that don't agree with his outlook by saying they have to
"grow up as a person (I don't mean that in an insulting way AT ALL), and accept your life beyond "the scene". [how is that not insulting?]
That's why everyone feels the need to justify... because the post is obviosly a veiled attack. Seriously...I party so I need to grow up? Is this just illicit drugs or are we counting booze too?
Anyways... not trying to troll, just wanted to point out why the post is getting the reactions that it is.
barbina
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Originally posted by nomore
Thing is. The scene is dominated by early to late 20 somethings and there's a reason for that...
When was the last time you went out? Last time I looked around Guv or Zone everyone was at least 10 years older than me. I get all the time for going out and being so young.
Some of the best people I've met in this scene are near or in their 30s.. and they're far from out of control drug users with life issues.
Irishaddict
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Originally posted by Gen3r4l1ty
Hate makes you lol?
Anyways... The reason he's catching flak for the post isn't because of his view, but because he failed to acknowledge the opposing side as being in any way legitimate. He's demonizing those that don't agree with his outlook by saying they have to
"grow up as a person (I don't mean that in an insulting way AT ALL), and accept your life beyond "the scene". [how is that not insulting?]
That's why everyone feels the need to justify... because the post is obviosly a veiled attack. Seriously...I party so I need to grow up? Is this just illicit drugs or are we counting booze too?
Anyways... not trying to troll, just wanted to point out why the post is getting the reactions that it is.
on here the hate makes me lol, cuz it's more often than not totally unneccessary.
see maybe i just didn't read it that way. he clearly said if his post reaches one person who is caught up in parties the wrong way that it has served its purpose. i don't even agree with all his criteria. i just think the overall message is more important. like i said - if you've found the balance, why the need to justify it here?
nomore
I've learned that with "opinions", you are almost always going to offend SOMEONE, no matter if you intended it or not.
Gen3r4l1ty
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Originally posted by Irishaddict
if you've found the balance, why the need to justify it here?
Because it wasn't phrased that way by the OP. That's all. If you post a one sided opinion, then you have to expect the opponents to voice thier side. Thats just how forums work.
Irishaddict
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Originally posted by Gen3r4l1ty
Because it wasn't phrased that way by the OP. That's all. If you post a one sided opinion, then you have to expect the opponents to voice thier side. Thats just how forums work.
