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| FunkyCrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
Virtually all data collected from the natural sciences over the past 20 years converges on an approximate 1500-year warming and cooling cycle. There's very little disagreement in the scientific community about this; however, enviro-nuts tend to claim that the cycle doesn't account for how much warming is happening right now.
To date, I haven't seen any convincing evidence either substantiating or disproving that counter-claim; it looks like we're maybe kinda sorta a little warmer than one might expect from the cycle, but it isn't the sort of significant statistical anomaly that ought to be causing worldwide panic, nor will turning off your lights for an hour have any profound effect on it (not even if the whole world does it). Burden of proof and all that; I care about the precautionary principle for the environment about as much as I care about it for religion.
But, like I said, electricity isn't free. It's good to try to conserve where possible, since it's getting harder and harder for the province to keep up with increasing demand. Thornhill had a long-ass blackout in the morning just a couple of weeks ago. If you really want to save electricity (and probably make a noticeable dent in your utility bill), stop thinking about the stupid lights and get yourself a programmable thermostat. |
sometimes your posts are so pleasurable to read :D |
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| Jem_hadar |
| quote: | Originally posted by FunkyCrew
sometimes your posts are so pleasurable to read :D |
pretty much most the time. respect to logic, sensibility, and intelligence. |
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| VERTiG0 |
| Its like goddamn minus 1 outside now, go to hell Al Gore |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by VERTiG0
Its like goddamn minus 1 outside now, go to hell Al Gore |
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| Jem_hadar |
| quote: | Originally posted by VERTiG0
Its like goddamn minus 1 outside now, go to hell Al Gore |
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^^ :stongue: :stongue: :stongue: |
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| FunkyCrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jem_hadar
pretty much most the time. respect to logic, sensibility, and intelligence. |
when we disagree I don't :P |
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| afterhrsgurl |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ania_xox
PS. Anyone have any cool stories regarding the blackout? I missed it as I was in the Polska motherland that summer... please share :toocool: |
i pretty much missed it too....i was camping at Sauble Beach when it happened |
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| Jayx1 |
the blackout was great for energy savings. Too bad the economy went into the ter because of it LOL
But those were a fun couple of days!! |
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| Orko |
| quote: | Meat is murder on the environment
A kilogram of beef is responsible for more greenhouse gas emissions and other pollution than driving for 3 hours while leaving all the lights on back home.
This is among the conclusions of a study by Akifumi Ogino of the National Institute of Livestock and Grassland Science in Tsukuba, Japan, and colleagues, which has assessed the effects of beef production on global warming, water acidification and eutrophication, and energy consumption. The team looked at calf production, focusing on animal management and the effects of producing and transporting feed. By combining this information with data from their earlier studies on the impact of beef fattening systems, the researchers were able to calculate the total environmental load of a portion of beef.
Their analysis showed that producing a kilogram of beef leads to the emission of greenhouse gases with a warming potential equivalent to 36.4 kilograms of carbon dioxide. It also releases fertilising compounds equivalent to 340 grams of sulphur dioxide and 59 grams of phosphate, and consumes 169 megajoules of energy (Animal Science Journal, DOI: 10.1111/j.1740-0929.2007.00457.x). In other words, a kilogram of beef is responsible for the equivalent of the amount of CO2 emitted by the average European car every 250 kilometres, and burns enough energy to light a 100-watt bulb for nearly 20 days.
The calculations, which are based on standard industrial methods of meat production in Japan, did not include the impact of managing farm infrastructure and transporting the meat, so the total environmental load is higher than the study suggests.
Most of the greenhouse gas emissions are in the form of methane released from the animals' digestive systems, while the acid and fertilising substances come primarily from their waste. Over two-thirds of the energy goes towards producing and transporting the animals' feed.
Possible interventions, the authors suggest, include better waste management and shortening the interval between calving by one month. This latter measure could reduce the total environmental load by nearly 6 per cent. A Swedish study in 2003 suggested that organic beef, raised on grass rather than concentrated feed, emits 40 per cent less greenhouse gases and consumes 85 per cent less energy.
"Methane emissions from beef cattle are declining, thanks to innovations in feeding practices," says Karen Batra of the National Cattlemen's Beef Association in Centennial, Colorado. "Everybody is trying to come up with different ways to reduce carbon footprints," says Su Taylor of the Vegetarian Society in the UK: "But one of the easiest things you can do is to stop eating meat."
http://environment.newscientist.com...nvironment.html |
This is in line with everything I have ever read on the subject. If you actually want to stop global warming, stop eating meat. Sure turning your light off is easy, and ineffective, but when you have to make a real effort, like cutting back on those steaks, lets see how many are willing to go the distance.
Don't buy into the hype of 'climate change'. Make a change in your life for the right reason. |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by Orko
If you actually want to stop global warming, stop eating meat. |
I'd rather fry. |
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| Jem_hadar |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
I'd rather fry. |
Ditto. I was born to eat meat. I enjoy it.
I guess its just the price of doing business. ;) |
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| loca |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
I'd rather fry. |
As would I. I will NEVER give up meat. |
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