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Uhh, Americans and Canadians, what the hell is this? (pg. 4)
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by jerZ07002
i'm not responding to the rest anymore |
but thanks for your replies, i learned a lot :) |
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| atbell |
| quote: | Originally posted by guerra-monstru
Great another American who believes this would be a bad thing. And how so necessarily? The worse thing is that prices in Mexico changed drastically from trade aggreements made by the Americans. So now prices are like in the US without an increase in wages. And the American's think they are suffering:rolleyes: . I believe that we should have a one currency and highway and where we can travel without visas or passports. It would be a good thing for this part of the world. Think of all North America and latin America together. Also we would have more land than Europe but not really people just yet. There is nothing negative to the North American Union other than not including the South. |
I'm so glade we don't have one curency and open borders. I don't want to see the value of my savings evaporate.
The negatives are all for Canada and Mexico. If it wasn't for the independance of Canadian foreign policy we'd be mired in Iraq and bancrupt just like the US :crazy: |
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| atbell |
| quote: | Originally posted by Trancer-X
I just put you on ignore so you won't have to worry about it anymore. ;) |
Ignoring, you mean like ignorance? Isn't this what you hate?
Does it suck to hate yourself? |
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| atbell |
| quote: | Originally posted by Krypton
I guess the American military is so stretched by foreign adventures, they need the Canadian military to pick up some slack...
I mean, they've depleted the National Guard so much, Canada is will now be our National Guard...O Canada O Canada!!! |
I'm pretty sure this is actually one of the reasons for the agreement.
Way back in '05 there was this problem down in the Big Easy and Canadian forces sat floating in thier boats waiting to land and help out. Unfortunately someone's ego wouldn't be bruised by asking for foreign soliders on thier soil. Shame really.
Then there's also the new Red Scare! The Russians are comming with Global Warming, right over the top of the world!!!! Clearly Canadians need a big strong army to figh them because every one knows you can never trust a Russian :eyespop: |
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| jerZ07002 |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
but thanks for your replies, i learned a lot :) |
no problem.
from you i've learned a ton about how to spot a conspiracy theorist (it's quite entertaining stuff you post) ;) |
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| Trancer-X |
| quote: | Originally posted by atbell
Ignoring, you mean like ignorance? Isn't this what you hate?
Does it suck to hate yourself? |
For all intents and purposes, my time and effort here is pretty limited so I've simply chosen to focus my attention on those who appear to actually be receptive instead of dogmatically or ideologically combative.
Ignoring someone who I feel may not be much more than a troll frees up a little bit of what would otherwise have been wasted time for me.
Anyway, the last thing that I need to spend time on is listening to more propagandized assertions about why we should basically just give up our national sovereignty and civil liberties for the sake of some omnipotent governing body that seeks to impose it's greedy and licentious will on all of mankind.
I love your personal insinuations, too. You all seem to love disparaging me so much that it often makes me feel happy to know that my small presence here must actually be threatening what many of us have been falsely conditioned to believe is a positive status quo. Thanks partly to that, I can't help but smile these days :D |
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| atbell |
| quote: | Originally posted by ********
I think you are forgetting the michigan militia has more personnel than the canadian military...
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I think you're forgetting that a loosely organized, poorly armed, poorly educated group of Arabs is BEATING 160,000 troops fighting with equipment worth more then any country in the world is willing to spend.
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Canada just recently purchased an airplane capable of lifting leased German Leopards.
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This is wrong. I've been in the C-130's that Canada ownes , that was 16 years ago.
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subs sank in peacetime...
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Also wrong. British second hand subs were found to have problems and some of them didn't work. It's the Sea King helicopters that were falling out of the sky.
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prime jean chreian is stated as quibing after the seaking fell into the ocean "what do they need helicopeters for they are the navy" (good joke)
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seeing as there have been two people in office since him this isn't very timely.
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none the less actually from what it appears Canada's military is very very undersized..
you must understand the US spends more than like most other nations combined.. over 30% GDP.. the DOD is the #1 buyer in the world...
Canada's military is like one division.. if that...
The real benifit is canada's industry...
and strategic landmass...
canada's population is largely "Urban"
although real canadian US divergences are more so poitical than cultural. |
Mitiltary might isn't what it used to be. The wars are not being fought in the same way, as is evident in the failure of the US military in Iraq, despite it's status as the #1 buyer of arms in the world.
The cultural differences are quite pronounced too. But thinking of Canada as a homogenous culture is about as smart as calling everyone in the US Texans.
The political divide is a reflection of the culture. |
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| atbell |
| quote: | Originally posted by Trancer-X
For all intents and purposes, my time and effort here is pretty limited so I've simply chosen to focus my attention on those who appear to actually be receptive instead of dogmatically or ideologically combative.
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I'll give you that. This is an internet forum and the pay sucks.
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Anyway, the last thing that I need to spend time on is listening to more propagandized assertions about why we should basically just give up our national sovereignty and civil liberties for the sake of some omnipotent governing body that seeks to impose it's greedy and licentious will on all of mankind.
I love your personal insinuations, too. You all seem to love disparaging me so much that it often makes me feel happy to know that my small presence here must actually be threatening what many of us have been falsely conditioned to believe is a positive status quo. Thanks partly to that, I can't help but smile these days :D |
I just get in an argumentative mood some days and your posts do frequently have holes in thier reasoning. Pointing them out doesn't mean I don't agree with a point of view, some times I'd rather people solidified thier arguments because then they are more convincing. |
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| jerZ07002 |
| quote: | Originally posted by ********
you must understand the US spends more than like most other nations combined.. over 30% GDP.. the DOD is the #1 buyer in the world...
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the US GDP is about 14 trillion. If we had military expenditures at 30% of GDP we would be spending nearly 4.6 trillion on military. the actual number is closer to 500 billion, which translates into about 4.5 percent of GDP.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publica...s.html#Military |
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| jerZ07002 |
| quote: | Originally posted by ********
Well your information as a percentage of US government funds as represented in GDP (that is GDP managed by the government)
Although I think your 500 Billion Figures are conservative in regard to military and paramilitary / CIA / black ops and quasi military organizations such as NASA and other military research organizations.. such as NRS, national gaurd /coast gaurd / other paramilitaries SS / FBI / DEA etc.. etc...
the spending easily accounts for 1/3rd of Government Spending (if you add in groups like CDC etc.. that have "quasi civil identies" then the spending is actually very large. |
government spending /= GDP |
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| jerZ07002 |
| quote: | Originally posted by ********
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I getcha
(touchy issue)
although I could present an argument for my accertation. But I'm not going to. |
"/=" means does not equal |
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| DJ Eco |
| quote: | Originally posted by Trancer-X
Hitler was once hailed as a great man and was even awarded Time Magazine's "Man of the Year." That was just before they started to round up and liquidate human beings in their concentration camps. |
Like only a handful of Time's M.O.T.Y., they picked him simply because of the effect he had on the world due to his actions. It doesn't ever imply anything purely positive or purely negative. Osama Bin Laden was supposed to be one, but it was judged too controversial, beyond controversial, but I'm sure you now get the idea behind the "Man Of The Year", just struck me as I was reading, figured I'd point you out.
As for this treaty and agreement, I like it and don't see anything wrong with it, simple as that. |
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