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The Ontario ban-wagon - Are we about to ban Ronald Mcdonald too??? (pg. 3)
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| Jayx1 |
| mcdonalds in thailand actually looked like the photos. And it was really good! |
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| zokissima |
| quote: | Originally posted by Skipper
So lemme get this straight, you're defending a corporation's RIGHT to advertise its unhealthy products to children of an age that can't make well considered decisions?
Seriously?
This isn't even a personal freedom we're talking about. It's ADVERTISING. |
I kind of understand where you're comming from, but at the same time, it is a little questionable that the state has rights to regulate advertising, a fundamental part of a free-market society, to supposedly 'at risk groups'.
What exactly do you mean by "well considered decisions"? Should not a child be brought up with healthy eating habits in the home? IMO I think a child's decision making process should be based on values taught by the mother and father. Your post indirectly implies that parents should bend to the whims of their children.
Parenting should be left to parents, not to the state. |
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| Ryan1524 |
I swear I'm too tall for an asian beause of McDonald's - the stuff they pump their meat with. I wanna be a little shorter damnit. :p
Western parents need to learn how to beat their kids. I was beaten as a child and learnt respect for my parents, and we get along decent these days now that I'm older. ;) |
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| UmmiE |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ryan1524
Western parents need to learn how to beat their kids. I was beaten as a child and learnt respect for my parents, and we get along decent these days now that I'm older. ;) |
+ ing one
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| Abercrombie |
I was beaten as a kid, and wouldn't want any of my kids ever to go through what I have been through. Nowadays my dad would have easily gone to jail for what he did. It took me years of martial arts training/therapy to learn how to repress any urges to do the same. When I see a parent slap their kids at a mall I'm the first one to say something about it. I've been there and when I see it happen, I can not help but put myself in the kid's shoes.
There's better ways to teach kids respect without violence, but unfortunately very little take the time to learn how to. |
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| Skipper |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
Based on this reasoning, then maybe they should go a step further and ban all children from viewing ALL media until 18?
Whatever happened to the idea of "parenting"? |
Parenting can only go so far. Children are exposed to far, far more media messages in a single day than they are to messages from their parents. Furthermore, they are infinitely more receptive to creative, cute and occasionally deceptive media messages than they are to mom and dad droning on about caloric intake.
I don't believe there should be a full out ban, but I do believe that advertising blatantly unhealthy products to children from a very young age is done excessively.
and furthermore, if parents are the gatekeepers, the ones with the wallet - why are the ads directed towards children? Because children who develop preferences and habits at a very young age stick with them for a long time and do not have the capacity to critically evaluate other sources of information and change their mind like an adult would. This results in a whole lot of children either spending their own money on food that mom and dad won't let them have, OR they bother mom and dad about it enough until they relent. No one wins but the advertiser.
I personally see this as more of a public health concern than a human rights concern. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Skipper
Parenting can only go so far. |
No, a good parent has control of their child. When the parent makes a decision, it's final.
| quote: | | Children are exposed to far, far more media messages in a single day than they are to messages from their parents. |
Again, a problem with parenting. Not the media. Perhaps parents should take the time to educate their children about media?
| quote: | | Furthermore, they are infinitely more receptive to creative, cute and occasionally deceptive media messages than they are to mom and dad droning on about caloric intake. |
Again, it's an opportunity for parents to teach their children about being media savvy. Why should the state do the parent's job?
| quote: | | I don't believe there should be a full out ban, but I do believe that advertising blatantly unhealthy products to children from a very young age is done excessively. |
and thats your opinion but should your opinion become a law? If that is indeed your opinion, dont allow your kids to be exposed to it, or educate your kids on what they are watching.
| quote: | | and furthermore, if parents are the gatekeepers, the ones with the wallet - why are the ads directed towards children? Because children who develop preferences and habits at a very young age stick with them for a long time and do not have the capacity to critically evaluate other sources of information and change their mind like an adult would. |
And the advertisers are counting on weak parenting. So the answer is not to be a weak parent.
| quote: | | This results in a whole lot of children either spending their own money on food that mom and dad won't let them have, |
Last i checked, kids under 16 cant work so how is this their own money?
| quote: | | OR they bother mom and dad about it enough until they relent. No one wins but the advertiser. |
Again, weak parenting. So why should we make the government the parent instead?
| quote: | | I personally see this as more of a public health concern than a human rights concern. |
I see this as weak parents asking the government to step in so that they wont have to say no as often to their children. If kids have proper discipline, no amount of advertising in the world can have an effect on their consumption. Kids always want things they cant have. Other kid's toys, some junk food, candy at the store, etc. Its up to mom and dad to have the final say no matter what tantrums the kid pulls. Thats what being a parent is all about. If parents cant say NO to their children then they shouldnt be parents. |
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| Abercrombie |
/overdue, Scott |
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| Skipper |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
No, a good parent has control of their child. |
lol. I stopped reading right there.
The reality is NO parent has 100% control of their child. If you think you do, keep kidding yourself. |
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| Orko |
| Skipper how do always managed to get sucked in? You are smarter than that. |
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| capo tutti di |
| quote: | Originally posted by 7-4-7
malleable |
Great word selection i will be using and abusing it at the office allllll next week |
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