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The Ontario ban-wagon - Are we about to ban Ronald Mcdonald too??? (pg. 6)
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| Ravist |
| depends on how fast your metabolism is ;) |
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| 7-4-7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
really? so kids have their own money and visit stores and restaurants alone at age 5? Wow talk about liberal parenting!
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Most people do not approach policy with the sort of contempt that your concern with this shows.
At what point would you feel that the government is sufficiently right in taking action. It is clear that childrens health is on a consistent and almost chronic digression, something at a federal level must be done to avoid the state that american children are in. The problem is that Mcdonalds is affordable, convieniant and available at every majour block in Canadian inner cities thus the masses will eat it. Sure the food is good, momentarily, but the compounded affect that a couple trips a week has on the state of a childs health is disasterous.
Parents, whether they are good or not take their kids there because kids know McDonalds not too long after they know most things about the world around them. It is clear that someone, and not just parents need to curtail eating at McDonalds.
are you simply arguing for the sake of disagrement with "liberal" policy making or is that you dont see a problem with the health/obesity concerns directly related to the consistent consumption of fast food? |
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| MarkT |
it's the classic laissez-faire, free market position and *in theory* it sounds good to many people. just like socialism *in theory* sounds good to many others. neither is realistic in our world.
I think there is a middle ground to be had where society and the gov't play a positive role.
In the case of McDonalds or Wal-Mart or any other huge corporation...the powers-that-be in those companies don't give one about their customers. there is ZERO motivation to do anything healthy or positive, only to turn a profit by whatever means necessary, while trying to maintain as positive and innocent a public profile as possible. Both have charities, low prices, espouse diversity in the workforce, blah blah...and throw their hands up in innocence whenever they're criticized.
I'm sorry...but expecting that all individuals are fully capable to defend against those calculated and predatorial positions is not realistic and it's not the type of society I'd want to live in.
this talk of nanny state, banana republic, blah blah is just ing bull. the reality is that "the market" isn't going to keep those types of companies in check...a bigger power is needed to do so. |
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| Silky Johnson |
| quote: | Originally posted by infinity HiGH
LOL what? Exercise is hardly enough on its own if you eat garbage all the time. |
Yeah, just because one exercises and maintains an ideal weight, doesn't mean all that junk isn't still contributing to atherosclerosis and heart problems, diabetes, and all kinds of other . |
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| soupastah |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
No, a good parent has control of their child. When the parent makes a decision, it's final.
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LMAO ... this is a great thread, but this (so far) has got to be the absolute stupidest comment i've read all year! did you really mean this? where is this little bubble world you've been couped up in? can i come into the bubble and visit? pls pls? honestly i lol'd |
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| soupastah |
| quote: | Originally posted by Skipper
lol. I stopped reading right there.
The reality is NO parent has 100% control of their child. If you think you do, keep kidding yourself. |
ok. so it wasn't just me;)
i had to stop and quote b4 finishing the thread... it was that funny
what i get from his position is all parents should be as good as he will be, and if they aren't then their faults, like the kid who is the one being advertised to has the fcuking choice of who his parents are |
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| soupastah |
| quote: | Originally posted by infinity HiGH
LOL what? Exercise is hardly enough on its own if you eat garbage all the time. |
funny thing is a bunch of excercise nutz made a documentary/study after that famous documentary was released "super size me" to try and prove the creator of said documentary an idiot. they went to mcdonalds 3 times a day just like he did (essentially did exactly what he did) only excersized frequetly and didn't have any of the fattie results he did. Not that any kid could be or should be expected to do so ... just thought it was a funny concept, always wondered if behind the scenes they weren't sponsored by fast food companies... |
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| soupastah |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
Research shows that one in four Canadian children between the ages of four and 17 is obese,
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| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
Toronto's medical officer of health has long recommended a ban and Quebec has banned all advertising aimed at children since 1982, Marchese said
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I don't see why the journalist introduces this potentially arguable point and then doesn't say if there's a difference between the Quebec and Ontario obesity rates in the kids he's refering to. so bloody annoying. shotty fcuking journalism is blasphemy imo... |
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| infinity HiGH |
| quote: | Originally posted by soupastah
I don't see why the journalist introduces this potentially arguable point and then doesn't say if there's a difference between the Quebec and Ontario obesity rates in the kids he's refering to. so bloody annoying. shotty fcuking journalism is blasphemy imo... |
I'm inclined to believe that there's a lot more obese kids in Ontario. Didn't they lower taxes on organic food as well, to make it more affordable to eat healthy? |
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| 7-4-7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by infinity HiGH
I'm inclined to believe that there's a lot more obese kids in Ontario. Didn't they lower taxes on organic food as well, to make it more affordable to eat healthy? |
average cost of grocery items has increased over the last 2 years and it is said to increase still, steadily. Since the increases are at a Federal level they affect us all. |
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| TO guy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
according to some bureaucrat's version of what's right and wrong.
They do. Its called CAS. |
Who do you think manages CAS? |
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