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the resurgance in percussion within the Techno Genre....
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| Az |
how nice is this?
whilst I've hardly been complaining over the past few "minimal" years, the last few months have seen a more pitched down style of the old ben sims/ adam beyer/ rolando/ {insert techno legend here} playing a lot more percussive techno, and I'm ing loving it...
Saw Robert Hood last weekend play some serious ing turn of the century style techno to a crowd who are supposed to be the most forward thinking outside of Berlin......
Whilst playing one of the best sets I've EVER heard, he managed to clear the room, simply because they couldn't handle the sheer pace and hardness he played at (at points he was touching 145 BPM+, still playing minimal..... he taught me a ing lesson I'll never forget)
The majority of people moved to the second room to listen to middle of the road ploddy techno, interspersed with trance classics (one of the residents genuinely played VdM - Fly Away)......
Is the minimal fad over? I know I've been making more percussive stuff for a while, but I hardly think I'm a ing trendsetter, do the Techno fans on here want to be hearing more percussive beats? at what point does synth replace percussion and vice versa?
looking forward to the replies on this bitch..... |
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| nefardec |
nice
i'm getting ready to play a 135+ detroitish set tomorrow
the only kind of minimal i can really love is robert hoodish and dan bellish minimal
the robert hood interview on RA is good too
http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature-read.aspx?id=901
I love how he lives in a remote Alabama town. |
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| Pseudo Society |
That's actually the type of techno I started off listening to in 98 and spinning in 99, except I kept it around 138-140. It was continuously hot in Detroit through that time til 2000 when I left, and from my understanding and through some videos seen it stayed hot for a while. It was always guaranteed to get the crowd nuts and bouncing off the walls.
I was also spinning percusive techno through 02-04 in Japan, and they ate that up. Though, during 02-04 the places I visited were still very hard-pressed over Detroit (not that there's anything wrong with that, imo) as the primary source of true techno, whether it be in regard to what people were spinning in Detroit, Detroit DJs/Producers were spinning and/or producing, or artists influenced by Detroit were playing out. They had hardons for booking Detroit DJs and Detroit influenced DJs (Garnier for instance) which was pretty damn nice.
Lately? I'm not sure how Detroit rolls outside of DEMF in regard to common styles, but I know that the speedy/percussive sound simply would not fly here in Washington, D.C. Though i'm not sure if these kids around here were ever truly exposed to the sound, I do know that house, progressive, minimal, and synthy/progressive'esk techno is dominating the scene here. It would be culture shock for 99% of these cats, if I had to estimate. |
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| Clovis |
| Interesting percussion is one of my favorite things about electronic music, and I think on a whole producers could be doing a lot more in that area, and theres still much left to explore. |
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| RJT |
Amen to all of this - the thing for me is just that when you've got some seriously varied and well done drums, you can take a few really, really simple samples and use them to build tunes that would have been a complete bore and mash them up with solid, drummy techno.
I'm really loving buying tracks right now that are little more than well sequenced/phrased DJ tools I can keep in on a 3rd deck or the looper and just ram in and kill at will.
And I know I just made a thread about this - but the drums in Mr. G "Sometimes I Cry" (Original Mix) are, I think, and excellent example of the kinds of things I was discussing above - and you can just kill the majority of the low frequency and keep it mashed as long as you want while still getting the awesome high end perc builds.
I love it - and I'm all for techno taking a turn back towards Detroit, and a rejuvenation of interest in drummy techno. |
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| nchs09 |
| I enjoy a broad range of techno.... from low bpms to high bpm :D |
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| saluyamo |
| Would you happen to have/know of a link to that set, Az? |
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| elFreak |
guillaume coutu dumont
best percussionist imo period (in edm)
/ing thread
although i personally cant deal with anything over 130 anymore...too old to do it sober:p |
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| JakeC |
| I cant wait to start dancing next to crusty ravers instead of someone with a nice fringe. :D |
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| sterilis |
| with any luck the old techno will reemerge. the minimal stuff has always bored me. |
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| evo8 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Az
how nice is this?
whilst I've hardly been complaining over the past few "minimal" years, the last few months have seen a more pitched down style of the old ben sims/ adam beyer/ rolando/ {insert techno legend here} playing a lot more percussive techno, and I'm ing loving it...
Saw Robert Hood last weekend play some serious ing turn of the century style techno to a crowd who are supposed to be the most forward thinking outside of Berlin......
Whilst playing one of the best sets I've EVER heard, he managed to clear the room, simply because they couldn't handle the sheer pace and hardness he played at (at points he was touching 145 BPM+, still playing minimal..... he taught me a ing lesson I'll never forget)
The majority of people moved to the second room to listen to middle of the road ploddy techno, interspersed with trance classics (one of the residents genuinely played VdM - Fly Away)......
Is the minimal fad over? I know I've been making more percussive stuff for a while, but I hardly think I'm a ing trendsetter, do the Techno fans on here want to be hearing more percussive beats? at what point does synth replace percussion and vice versa?
looking forward to the replies on this bitch..... |
Its definetly coming back alright
Saw beyer this time last year, played a brilliant set, all percussion for about an hour, no synths or basslines, it was unbelievable, next hour he went a bit more conventional
To me he (and Drumcode) has always been the one leading the way, but even Chris Liebing's latest release on CLR (whilst slow enough in bpm) seems a lot harder than the minimal direction he also went in.... |
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| PETRAN |
Ehmmm Adam Beyer and Ben Sims Detroit techno? Nope, thats just stupid European fast loopy techno mate (related to Schranz).
One thing that distnquishes the original Detroit sound from later-day stuff such as this was the "soul" it had, meaning that it also entailed musical elements not just a bunch of fast looped drums.
+1 for Rolando though. |
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