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Horror in a cellar... (pg. 2)
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| The Wiz |
| quote: | Originally posted by Intangible
He is only facing up to 15 years
he should at least get 1 year for every year he ruined for the daughter and 3 children.
(Even though Im sure he doesnt have that many more years to live)
Stories like this make me feel so sick |
Life in jail. |
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| Jben |
Careful who you marry girls Mwahahahahhahahaaa!!!!!
Im sorry i had ths discussion with the girls i work with, and they brought up that point about trusting the person you marry. Hehee |
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| Cosmic Fur |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kamka
As I've read on another discussion forum... mass murderers are just incompetent amateurs compared to this "father".
His daughter (the first one in the story): sexually abused since the age of 11... locked up in a dungean cellar with no access to sunlight from 18 to 42... repeatedly raped... come on people, you should leave all hints at jokes and sarcasm aside. This is too grave and horifying a situation for that. It's the worst thing I've read in ages.
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I always kind of chuckle when I read responses like this to the latest mass-media hype story. Did you never read history, or are you just playing ignorant? I can instantly think of many examples of things people did that are far worse than 4 people's lives being ruined.
Yes, yes, dude raping his daughter for 30 odd years is terrible, but when compared to other things people did and DO, it falls off the "OMFG THE HUMANITY!" scale pretty quickly. |
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| magikb |
| quote: | Originally posted by The Wiz
Life in jail. |
Agreed.
I have been hearing this all over the news obviously. Very disturbing. |
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| Cribby |
For some reason I thought of Helen Cornell when I saw the topic title.
Wish I hadn't read this thread! :( |
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| Jem_hadar |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kamka
makes me think that God (or whoever it is), does not seem to care... |
Or that god (and lets assume there is one here for a second) simply and absolutely chooses not to interfer in human affairs. that he gave us freewill and lets us deal with the affairs of our lives that are created bc of that freewill (the good and the bad the same). |
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| The Wiz |
| quote: | Originally posted by The Wiz
Life in jail. |
Actually, life in a a ing basement with no sunlight. Asswipe. |
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| dEsidEL |
| quote: | Originally posted by Shaya007
he looks a lot like Donald Sutherland!
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i thought this too .. weird
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| Kamka |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
I always kind of chuckle when I read responses like this to the latest mass-media hype story. Did you never read history, or are you just playing ignorant? I can instantly think of many examples of things people did that are far worse than 4 people's lives being ruined.
Yes, yes, dude raping his daughter for 30 odd years is terrible, but when compared to other things people did and DO, it falls off the "OMFG THE HUMANITY!" scale pretty quickly. |
To me it is very nasty and cruel and more disturbing than other things I read, and hear about. Yes, there are people being killed (in wars, tragedies, accidents, natural disastears, 9/11...), but that usually happens pretty quickly (compared to 24 years of constant suffering) and then the victims in those stories do not suffer or feel any pain anymore. Maybe your subjective view of this is different because you cannot image and feel how horrible the events in this story are... I can imagine and feel very vividly the hopelesness and suffering of that poor girl, when she was locked in the cellar with no chance out and only her father's raping visits to see as her future, and thus to me this story seems worse than many other things. Ok?!
Oh yeah, and I'm entitled to my opinion. Just because this story is more disturbing to me psychologically than it is to you (obviously), there is no need for you calling me 'ignorant' or giving me moralising lessons. And I consider this more than just "media hype", if you please... this is about the failure of society and system to protect those who it should protect, those most vulnerable. The fact that you can degrade the horros of this story only to so much as "media-hype" speaks for itself. |
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| adi26 |
| quote: | Originally posted by barbina
Hes one scary |
Kill him. Hang him. Hez already ruined way too many lives. |
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| Cosmic Fur |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kamka
Yes, there are people being killed (in wars, tragedies, accidents, natural disastears, 9/11...), but that usually happens pretty quickly (compared to 24 years of constant suffering) and then the victims in those stories do not suffer or feel any pain anymore. Maybe your subjective view of this is different because you cannot image and feel how horrible the events in this story are... I can imagine and feel very vividly the hopelesness and suffering of that poor girl, when she was locked in the cellar with no chance out and only her father's raping visits to see as her future, and thus to me this story seems worse than many other things. Ok?!
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Your argument here is that it's better being dead than alive and suffering (Overlooking the many, many people whose death wasn't as quick & easy as you made it out to be - the millions upon millions of those who suffered oppression, genocide, torture, etc their entire lives). But even the girl in question here didn't believe that, or else she would have killed herself in the 24 years she was imprisoned. So you go on right ahead and tell all those who DIDN'T have a choice in being alive or dead, that being dead is better than being alive and suffering.
| quote: | Originally posted by Kamka
Oh yeah, and I'm entitled to my opinion. Just because this story is more disturbing to me psychologically than it is to you (obviously), there is no need for you calling me 'ignorant' or giving me moralising lessons. And I consider this more than just "media hype", if you please... this is about the failure of society and system to protect those who it should protect, those most vulnerable. The fact that you can degrade the horros of this story only to so much as "media-hype" speaks for itself. |
I didn't call you ignorant; stop latching onto words without looking at the whole sentence. I said "playing ignorant" aka "you're not ignorant of all the things I mentioned, just pretending to be". And this is why I call it a media-hype: because people have a stellar tendency not to remember the horrible things that happened a few months ago, let alone years or decades. And my point was that we're all shocked about it NOW precisely because we forgot how shocked we were about the last media-hype a few months ago. But if we take time to remember the waterboarding scandal, or just dig a little further back in history, then the shock factor subsides, and all we have is a handful of people who suffered for 20-odd years. Like that's never happened before.
And how is it a failure of society? People do ed-up . That's a failure of those people, not society. How was society supposed to have prevented this from ever happening?
Anyway, I'm going to step out of this thread and let the vaginas in here bleed it out. Guaranteed one month from now no one will remember this. I remember all the crying that was going on about the last time this happened (2006), and now it's just a passing remark, "oh yeah, THAT girl". |
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| Abercrombie |
| I don't know what's worse... this or the dozens of pregnant brainwashed pregnant teen girls in the FLDS. |
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