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| jerZ07002 |
| quote: | Originally posted by HardTranceProd
Everyone keeps forgetting that Israel is a throroughly European country. I just don't want this detail to be overlooked when discussing the US-Israel relationship. I would venture to say, Israel's relationship with Europe is actually stronger than with the US, when you consider the # of Israeli tourists/workers there, the trade that goes on, the culture etc. |
while that's a valid point, there is a reason the jews of europe leave europe to go to israel. |
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| Flotser |
| quote: | Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Israel: keeping the Nazi tradition alive. Happy genocide day. |
This is extremely ignorant and insulting of you.
you deserve no respect.
do me a little favor, and at least look up the word "holocaust" in google images.
and read
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holoca...rmination_camps
thanks. |
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| shaolin_Z |
| quote: | Originally posted by Flotser
This is extremely ignorant and insulting of you.
you deserve no respect. |
An individual that proposes ethnic cleansing, theft, and genocide under the perception of securing his / her own interest is extremely insulting and deserves no respect.
Do me a favour and debunk this: http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...d=&pagenumber=1 |
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| jerZ07002 |
| quote: | Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Persecution isn't unique to Jews, they (not everybody obviously) just make a big deal out of it |
you seem to make a big deal out of the persecution of palestinians, as do all muslims. actually, muslims probably bitch more than any other group about persecution. i knew an egyptian kid (real nice kid) that would get real heated about the supposed persecution of muslims in egypt by the minority of christians that lived there. what the planet did he live on?
to be fair to jewish people, we still have a large group of black people in this country that bitch about inequalities due to slavery. latin american day laborers complain about unfair working conditions. jewish people by no means are the only group that makes a big deal of these issues.
the only group of people in this country that don't seem to bitch about anything are asians (chinese, japanese, korean, etc...).
he's palestinian (i believe - or at least muslim)....which explains his harsh views about israel. |
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| jerZ07002 |
we have ton of jewish girls in nyc, but not many like that. :eyespop: |
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| shaolin_Z |
| quote: | Originally posted by jerZ07002
you seem to make a big deal out of the persecution of palestinians, as do all muslims. actually, muslims probably bitch more than any other group about persecution. i knew an egyptian kid (real nice kid) that would get real heated about the supposed persecution of muslims in egypt by the minority of christians that lived there. what the planet did he live on?
to be fair to jewish people, we still have a large group of black people in this country that bitch about inequalities due to slavery. latin american day laborers complain about unfair working conditions. jewish people by no means are the only group that makes a big deal of these issues.
the only group of people in this country that don't seem to bitch about anything are asians (chinese, japanese, korean, etc...).
he's palestinian (i believe - or at least muslim)....which explains his harsh views about israel. |
No one making a big deal about it, they're addressing it because it's an issue in the present defying every ethical norm known to mankind. The effects of slavery are also quite legitimate and not something to be ignored or neglected, although it's not the only factor... as is the case in just about everything.
I'm not Palestinian, and my disgust has nothing to with religion. I'm not even Arab (I'm part Arab, although Arab's would never consider me to be Arab). Your assumptions are completely off mark... you might want to question other assumptions you may or may not have, regardless of the subject at hand.
EDIT: Name me one other state or group that the West is completely subservient too regardless of utter disregard for every ethical norm or law. Then you might have a point. |
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| jerZ07002 |
| quote: | Originally posted by shaolin_Z
No one making a big deal about it, they're addressing it because it's an issue in the present defying every ethical norm known to mankind. The effects of slavery are also quite legitimate and not something to be ignored or neglected, although it's not the only factor... as is the case in just about everything.
I'm not Palestinian, and my disgust has nothing to with religion. I'm not even Arab (I'm part Arab, although Arab's would never consider me to be Arab). Your assumptions are completely off mark... you might want to question other assumptions you may or may not have, regardless of the subject at hand. |
my bad about thinking you were palestinian. i could swear i remember reading that somewhere. i would be extremely surprised if your religion had nothing to do with it. Groups tend to follow similar patterns.
Are you as passionate about Darfur?
how are the effects of slavery a more valid concern than the effects of the attempted extermination of a religious group? That kind of hatred doesn't appear quickly and does not disappear quickly. |
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| jerZ07002 |
| quote: | Originally posted by shaolin_Z
EDIT: Name me one other state or group that the West is completely subservient too regardless of utter disregard for every ethical norm or law. Then you might have a point. |
saudi arabia. |
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| shaolin_Z |
| quote: | Originally posted by jerZ07002
my bad about thinking you were palestinian. i could swear i remember reading that somewhere. i would be extremely surprised if your religion had nothing to do with it. Groups tend to follow similar patterns. |
Groups do tend to follow patterns, but I've never really associated myself with any... wheather is religious, nationalistic, ideological, or what have you. I wouldn't be surprised at you being surprised, but there's people from all backrounds with equally strong veiws on the issue amongst others, athiests included... a lot of which happen to be secular Jews.
| quote: | Originally posted by jerZ07002
how are the effects of slavery a more valid concern than the effects of the attempted extermination of a religious group? That kind of hatred doesn't appear quickly and does not disappear quickly. |
Because there was no attempted extermination of an entire religious group. There was a madman belonging to the Thule Society, funded in part by the Rothchilds and Warburdgs, who wasn't even Aryan and had ideas of Aryan supremacy and creating a perfect aryan nation... all other ethnicities being inferior according to that perspective, even "non-ideal" Aryans. It's true there was plenty of racism and anti-Jewish sentiment in Europe at the time... and towards anyone else too. But let's not make connections that don't exist. |
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| shaolin_Z |
| quote: | Originally posted by jerZ07002
saudi arabia. |
Saudi Arabia is a degerate state, but it isn't an expanding colony wiping out the indigenous population. Big difference. |
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| Flotser |
| quote: | Originally posted by shaolin_Z
An individual that proposes ethnic cleansing, theft, and genocide under the perception of securing his / her own interest is extremely insulting and deserves no respect. |
I've never proposed ethnic cleansing, theft or genocide...
I think the first repsonse in the thread by Lebezniatnikov is quite enough: | quote: | | Slight difference: Anne Frank was hiding because the Nazis were going door to door shipping Jews to death camps. |
now do me a favor, and follow the links i gave you in the previous post. at least read the wikipedia!
When you compare Israel's actions to the Nazi actions, you immediately reveal your ignorance in this subject to all people who have at least little knowledge of history. |
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