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| shaolin_Z |
| quote: | Originally posted by Flotser
I've never proposed ethnic cleansing, theft or genocide... |
So you're not a Zionist then?
| quote: | Originally posted by Flotser
I think the first repsonse in the thread by Lebezniatnikov is quite enough: |
That's interesting, as it doesn't even address anything.
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now do me a favor, and follow the links i gave you in the previous post. |
I'm familiar with historical exagerations and fabrications. You can't avoid it if you've been through the school system. |
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| jerZ07002 |
| quote: | Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Saudi Arabia is a degerate state, but it isn't an expanding colony wiping out the indigenous population. Big difference. |
you didn't ask for a country where it occurs for the same reasons. you asked for a state to which the west was subservient despite the utter disregard for ethical norms or laws. i gave you one; one in which the conduct is far more brutal, despite the difference in reasons. |
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| shaolin_Z |
| quote: | Originally posted by jerZ07002
you didn't ask for a country where it occurs for the same reasons. you asked for a state to which the west was subservient despite the utter disregard for ethical norms or laws. i gave you one; one in which the conduct is far more brutal, despite the difference in reasons. |
How many UN resolutions has it violated in contrast? The West isn't subservient to Saudi Arabia; Saudi Arabia is subservient to the West. |
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| Flotser |
| quote: | Originally posted by shaolin_Z
I'm familiar with historical exagerations and fabrications. You can't avoid it if you've been through the school system. |
if the Holocoust and the extermination camps are fabrication to you, our discussion is useless. |
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| shaolin_Z |
| quote: | Originally posted by HardTranceProd
Everyone keeps forgetting that Israel is a throroughly European country. I just don't want this detail to be overlooked when discussing the US-Israel relationship. I would venture to say, Israel's relationship with Europe is actually stronger than with the US, when you consider the # of Israeli tourists/workers there, the trade that goes on, the culture etc. |
i.e. not semitic. |
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| shaolin_Z |
| quote: | Originally posted by Flotser
if the Holocoust and the extermination camps are fabrication to you, our discussion is useless. |
Show me where I said that. |
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| jerZ07002 |
| quote: | Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Because there was no attempted extermination of an entire religious group. There was a madman belonging to the Thule Society, funded in part by the Rothchilds and Warburdgs, who wasn't even Aryan and had ideas of Aryan supremacy and creating a perfect aryan nation... all other ethnicities being inferior according to that perspective, even "non-ideal" Aryans. It's true there was plenty of racism and anti-Jewish sentiment in Europe at the time... and towards anyone else too. But let's not make connections that don't exist. |
just because jewish people weren't being killed on the street by random people doesn't make the act any less an attempted extermination. the fact that so many soldiers were actually following through with orders implies there was a deep hatred for jewish people. you can't follow through with those acts unless there is a deep seeded hatred.
even if some soldiers feared death for not following through with the killings, that doesn't explain much because someone would have to kill the soldier for not killing the jews. i can't imagine that fellow soldiers would kill soldiers for not killing jews unless they themselves hated jews (they would have to feel justified in killing that other soldier). this wasn't one man's hatred. hitler certainly didn't kill 6 million jews by himself. |
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| jerZ07002 |
| quote: | Originally posted by shaolin_Z
How many UN resolutions has it violated in contrast? The West isn't subservient to Saudi Arabia; Saudi Arabia is subservient to the West. |
i don't know how many. but i like how you subsequently change the parameters of the question in hopes that the answer no longer holds true.
| quote: | Originally posted by shaolin_Z
The West isn't subservient to Saudi Arabia; Saudi Arabia is subservient to the West. |
please....we look the other way with all kinds of human rights violations commmited by saudi arabia because of oil. saudi arabia has something we want, so we don't upset them for fear of it being held back. why do leftist people always consider the demander of goods to have the upper hand. with oil, the one commodity that we have built our energy foundation upon, the supplier is king. |
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| shaolin_Z |
| quote: | Originally posted by jerZ07002
just because jewish people weren't being killed on the street by random people doesn't make the act any less an attempted extermination. the fact that so many soldiers were actually following through with orders implies there was a deep hatred for jewish people. you can't follow through with those acts unless there is a deep seeded hatred.
even if some soldiers feared death for not following through with the killings, that doesn't explain much because someone would have to kill the soldier for not killing the jews. i can't imagine that fellow soldiers would kill soldiers for not killing jews unless they themselves hated jews (they would have to feel justified in killing that other soldier). this wasn't one man's hatred. hitler certainly didn't kill 6 million jews by himself. |
Yes, he didn't kill 6 million jews, that's about the only correct statement other than a prejudice towards Jews. |
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| shaolin_Z |
| quote: | Originally posted by jerZ07002
i don't know how many. but i like how you subsequently change the parameters of the question in hopes that the answer no longer holds true. |
No I didn't. If you're too dense, indoctrinated, or ignorant to understand the question that isn't my fault. |
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| Flotser |
| quote: | Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Show me where I said that. |
you serious?
your answer to:
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| quote: | Originally posted by Flotser
now do me a favor, and follow the links i gave you in the previous post.
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| quote: | Originally posted by shaolin_Z
I'm familiar with historical exagerations and fabrications. You can't avoid it if you've been through the school system. |
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| shaolin_Z |
| quote: | Originally posted by Flotser
you serious?
your answer to:
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So where does it say concentration camps didn't exist or people were not exterminated in them? You clearly didn't read anything in that thread and are working off your assumptions again. |
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