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Christopher Lawrence @ Stereo - Fri/May.30 (pg. 3)
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| SPANIARD |
| quote: | Originally posted by robbiej
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he was a hardtrance-trance dj and all releases are trance even in 2000.
while your asking him silly questions ask him why he was disqualified from djmag 2007;)
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Aren't you the same guy who based your argument on him sucking cause he wasn't invited to Trance Energy? |
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| robbiej |
what?
edit; theres only one reason why he sucks,.. and its because he sucks ;) |
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| ~*Stereohead*~ |
| quote: | Originally posted by robbiej
extremely fine line to trance and house in 2000?? lol |
not HOUSE and trance. PROG house and trance...
well there was man...just a small example to illustrate my point: sasha & digweed's stuff prior to 2000-2001 sounded ALOT like trance...but everyone jumped on the progressive house bandwagon (which got really hype around 1999-2001). then, everyone started saying sasha and digweed's stuff was simply melodic prog...when it really was trance.
so, yeah, i do believe there was a fine line between the 2 genres back then, from the music i've listened to anyway...when my friends make me hear "oldschool" stuff from back in the day (ie: 2001 and before), they say they're showing me prog house...but it really sounds like trance; alot of peeps i've talked to about this agree.
whatever dude, just a difference in opinion :) |
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| robbiej |
| there wasnt a fine line.. research what progressivetrance is.. sasha produced trance. see your opinions are baseless bec people feed you terrible information and or you believe in stupid like what it said on the stereo flyer.. now go listen to sasha - xpander and tell me you hear a 'fine line' between proghouse and trance i swear to god it doesnt hurt to research for ur own ;)<3 |
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| ~*Stereohead*~ |
| quote: | Originally posted by robbiej
there wasnt a fine line.. research what progressivetrance is.. sasha produced trance. see your opinions are baseless bec people feed you terrible information and or you believe in stupid like what it said on the stereo flyer.. now go listen to sasha - xpander and tell me you hear a 'fine line' between proghouse and trance i swear to god it doesnt hurt to research for ur own ;)<3 |
if you're calling xpander a trance tune (or any variation of trance, ie: progressive trance as you said), then you my friend are really out to lunch...
i think sasha would bitchslap you if you told him xpander was a phenomenal trance tune, seriously...wow.
just because trance DJs played and whored that track does not make it a trance tune. if you consider melodic elements (such as pads, arpegiators and hi-end synth riffs) in a track to be deemed as trance, then again i say, you're the one who's out to lunch...simple melody does not equal trance.
and the people "feeding" me this are not only close friends, Djs and producers but they happen to have at least 10 yrs experience in this scene (not only montreal's)...and a couple are actually huge international DJs/producers so i wouldn't discredit them completely as you have attempted to do.
so, i guess there was a fine line between prog trance (as you call it) and melodic prog house...is that better? |
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| robbiej |
| quote: | Originally posted by ~*Stereohead*~
if you're calling xpander a trance tune (or any variation of trance, ie: progressive trance as you said), then you my friend are really out to lunch...
i think sasha would bitchslap you if you told him xpander was a phenomenal trance tune, seriously...wow.
just because trance DJs played and whored that track does not make it a trance tune. if you consider melodic elements (such as pads, arpegiators and hi-end synth riffs) in a track to be deemed as trance, then again i say, you're the one who's out to lunch...simple melody does not equal trance.
and the people "feeding" me this are not only close friends, Djs and producers but they happen to have at least 10 yrs experience in this scene (not only montreal's)...and a couple are actually huge international DJs/producers so i wouldn't discredit them completely as you have attempted to do.
so, i guess there was a fine line between prog trance (as you call it) and melodic prog house...is that better? |
you are clearly proving how much you dont know about edm, or atleast 1998->2003.. i dont know whether i should continue giving you the benefit of me giving you a lesson or just walk away from your how dense you are.. now your giving your 'opinion' (seems all you do is give your opinions) is that xpander is not a trance anthem? Are you ing with me or are you actually that silly to bring this to the table? Hi-end synth riffs? what is what ur saying synths that are played in the high range are generalized as trance synths or something? waht the ? synths dont have to be 'hi-end' you could have synths in the 'mid' range too are you kidding me? do you even know what you are talking about? with that said.. ill give you a moment to take back what you said and give me and educated response..
lol.. xpander is not a trance tune... lmao CLEARLY... you are right.. =) you need to stop living your life by 'well this dj told me this and that producer told me that so its fact' ...
see the problem with you is that if a massive coke head like steve lawler or some deuche dj like tiesto, on a plate and told u it was the most amazing sound in the world.. you would believe it.. then run to this board and talk some kind of fake game that you know what ur talking about lol .. i dont mean to be a but honestly :) ur talking to the wrong person.. i still offer u to google your little pretty face off =) |
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| SPANIARD |
| quote: | Originally posted by ~*Stereohead*~
if you're calling xpander a trance tune (or any variation of trance, ie: progressive trance as you said), then you my friend are really out to lunch...
i think sasha would bitchslap you if you told him xpander was a phenomenal trance tune, seriously...wow.
just because trance DJs played and whored that track does not make it a trance tune. if you consider melodic elements (such as pads, arpegiators and hi-end synth riffs) in a track to be deemed as trance, then again i say, you're the one who's out to lunch...simple melody does not equal trance.
and the people "feeding" me this are not only close friends, Djs and producers but they happen to have at least 10 yrs experience in this scene (not only montreal's)...and a couple are actually huge international DJs/producers so i wouldn't discredit them completely as you have attempted to do.
so, i guess there was a fine line between prog trance (as you call it) and melodic prog house...is that better? |
Let me guess, when Digweed & Sasha were playing PVD and Airwave tunes, that was melodic house too right? :rolleyes: |
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| bobbysavage |
ARP'S KILL BABY'S
lol @ the endless xpander debate, been there done that ;) |
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| Esiotrat |
Omg it's in a few hours...I HATE the last few hours before an exciting event..it seems to draaag for soooo looong. Such torture.
:whip:
Anyway..will be heading there around 2-ish..I'm gonna be wearing a pink Trance Addict shirt and jeans and probably be rocking my shades too. Come say hello.
See you on the dancefloor. :D |
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| Trancission |
| just came back from Stereo, Wizz really killed it this time. I loved the tunes he selected and they way the music progressed. Lawerence was really good too, he played some hard trance tunes with amazing melodies..I had a problem dancing though, I was really tired so I had to leave abit early:p |
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| ~*Stereohead*~ |
| quote: | Originally posted by robbiej
you are clearly proving how much you dont know about edm, or atleast 1998->2003.. i dont know whether i should continue giving you the benefit of me giving you a lesson or just walk away from your how dense you are.. now your giving your 'opinion' (seems all you do is give your opinions) is that xpander is not a trance anthem? Are you ing with me or are you actually that silly to bring this to the table? Hi-end synth riffs? what is what ur saying synths that are played in the high range are generalized as trance synths or something? waht the ? synths dont have to be 'hi-end' you could have synths in the 'mid' range too are you kidding me? do you even know what you are talking about? with that said.. ill give you a moment to take back what you said and give me and educated response..
lol.. xpander is not a trance tune... lmao CLEARLY... you are right.. =) you need to stop living your life by 'well this dj told me this and that producer told me that so its fact' ...
see the problem with you is that if a massive coke head like steve lawler or some deuche dj like tiesto, on a plate and told u it was the most amazing sound in the world.. you would believe it.. then run to this board and talk some kind of fake game that you know what ur talking about lol .. i dont mean to be a but honestly :) ur talking to the wrong person.. i still offer u to google your little pretty face off =) |
what is wrong with giving opinions all the time? isn't everything relative and subjective in the end? especially on a music discussion forum? if you think i'm that dense, then you would have walked away a long time ago. and you for saying that, by the way. a real you've proven yourself to be.
i never said all synth riffs HAVE to be in high end, so don't say i did. and i didn't generalize anything; what i was trying to say (but u're clearly so dense you didn't read properly) was that some certain musical elements can be generalizable to the genre of trance music...such as a high end synth riff.
you need to give yourself a moment to get off your high horse and stop insulting me personally when all we were discussing was a trance DJ and now, a highly debated prog/trance track. xpander is the one song that alot of people debate over. if you put a prog head vs. a trance head in an argument over that track, you'll never see an agreement.
saying that i would agree with the lawler/tiesto example you gave is just another pathetic attempt of yours to try to personally bring me down and insult my intelligence. i don't need you to tell me what i know. again, who do you think you are?
and you're saying i'm talking to the wrong person? please illustrate where i ever talked to you? ( meaning insulting and bashing on the other person for no reason). if anything, you're the one talking ...and believe me, it's to the wrong person.
if you think i'm running some kind of fake game, so be it, think whatever you want but don't personally insult me over that thought of yours...so i'm fake now and know NOTHING because i said xpander was not solely a trance anthem? the last 3+ years of my life i've invested into discovering this world means nothing? ok there turbo...
and no, i don't take DJs/producers' answers as fact as you implied. i hear them out and work with that info to try to generate new info so i can learn more! and rightfully so because i think it's common sense that a person having over 10 yrs experience Djing and producing knows at least SOMETHING about prog and trance.
that's all, you guys are starting to make me sick. |
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| ~*Stereohead*~ |
| quote: | Originally posted by SPANIARD
Let me guess, when Digweed & Sasha were playing PVD and Airwave tunes, that was melodic house too right? :rolleyes: |
i never ever said that S&D played solely melodic prog house. why do people keep putting words into my mouth?
they played a lot of melodic prog...! and ya, PVD and airwave tunes (most of the ones i've heard) are indeed pure trance, nothing housey going on there. just because they drop a few trance tunes doesn't make them sheer trance DJs
i just think the line was blurred between trance and prog 7-10 yrs ago. prog heads will tell you S&D's older stuff is TRUE prog while trance heads will say that they were trance pioneers...it's a matter of interpretation and opinion...and labeling.
i might be wrong on this one: but i don't ever re-call sasha or john calling themselves or considering themselves trance DJs. if that's the case, then why would xpander which is sasha's tune, be considered a trance anthem? it doesn't make sense unless you deem xpander to be trance. my point again, a matter of interpretation. |
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