|
Lost in Translation (pg. 3)
|
View this Thread in Original format
| diggerz |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
If I wanted to see Tokyo, I'd see a doco. |
:stongue: |
|
|
| Ania_xox |
| quote: | Originally posted by Audious
FTFY |
| quote: | Originally posted by shuni
pffrfrf |
:stongue: |
|
|
| Bulgatti |
| quote: | Originally posted by diggerz
great movie in terms of cinematography and directing.
the plot is very well written too.
she's not as good as a director as her father, regardless of
how dreadful 'godfather III' turned out to be. |
You really don't think so? I think she's just as up to par. Alot of the beauty of the sequences reminded me exactly of Kurosawa's work. I can watch over and over again that moment when Scarlett actually does become "lost in translation" and ventures out of the "stereotypical" Japan. It's the greatest moment of the film, imo-
she's wandering the steets and spots the traditional geisha procession (but hey perhaps that stereotypical as well)Perfect cinematography and score.
Lira, imo, that shield was representational of their lives. He was in a broken marriage, gave off about his job/life, she didn't know what the hell she was doing, merely living for her bf, both lost in... well, you know. The empty, isolated, industrialized, cultural barrier, chaotic backdrop of Japan served as a replication of the characters themselves. Just as they couldn't communicate or live in Japan, they couldn't do so with themselves, nor with anyone else. That's why I love the moment Scarlett wanders & becomes lost. She's found. After that moment, everything changes. Oh, and the soundtrack is bomb.
My favorite film. Best opening sequence, too. Tight asscheeks. |
|
|
| Bulgatti |
| quote: | Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_
I went to the Park Hyatt, Tokyo a few months back for dinner, and the view from the top was one of the best views in the world ever. Absolutely breath-taking night-scene. |
:crazy: |
|
|
| denys envy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Slylee
no cuz he wasn't just "someone" he was a famous actor remember? and they never "do" each other. |
Over the hill actor. And they mentally did it. |
|
|
| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Bulgatti
You really don't think so? I think she's just as up to par. Alot of the beauty of the sequences reminded me exactly of Kurosawa's work. I can watch over and over again that moment when Scarlett actually does become "lost in translation" and ventures out of the "stereotypical" Japan. It's the greatest moment of the film, imo-
she's wandering the steets and spots the traditional geisha procession (but hey perhaps that stereotypical as well)Perfect cinematography and score.
Lira, imo, that shield was representational of their lives. He was in a broken marriage, gave off about his job/life, she didn't know what the hell she was doing, merely living for her bf, both lost in... well, you know. The empty, isolated, industrialized, cultural barrier, chaotic backdrop of Japan served as a replication of the characters themselves. Just as they couldn't communicate or live in Japan, they couldn't do so with themselves, nor with anyone else. That's why I love the moment Scarlett wanders & becomes lost. She's found. After that moment, everything changes. Oh, and the soundtrack is bomb. |
hmm... I do take your word for it, don't get me wrong, but I still feel something is missing.
The reason why I prefer films over books (when it comes to fiction) is because a screenplay is able to convey so much more than a book (because, much like real life, in a film you can ~capture~ whatever it is that you'd capture in real life, unlike books, in which your imagination is filtered by what the author decided to focus)... and, in this case, it makes me sad that I've read a story by Albert Camus in which he describes a very similar situation in a more interesting fashion (except they were in Algeria rather than Japan, and the woman had no one to "click with").
But it is a matter of taste, I'm aware of that. You mentioned Kurosawa and, no matter how much I like Japanese cinema (I do), the only film by Kurosawa I've ever enjoyed was "Hakuchi", inspired by Dostoevsky's book "The Idiot". The rest seems to have this more-japanese-than-thou atmosphere that drives me nuts, which comes across as cheesy to me. |
|
|
| diggerz |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
and, in this case, it makes me sad that I've read a story by Albert Camus in which he describes a very similar situation in a more interesting fashion (except they were in Algeria rather than Japan, and the woman had no one to "click with").
|
existentialist much? |
|
|
| Bulgatti |
Actually, I've never seen Hakuchi, but have been told the visuals are amongst his best. I have a hard time notioning anything can top "Dreams," his collection of short films. If you haven't seen that, do! It's post-Samurai :d But thanks, just another reminder I've got to see that.
See, I'm the opposite. I always prefer books to movies. Movies can never provide the internalizations of the characters as strongly as books can convey & I don't think it'd be entertaining to witness a actor/actress think aloud to themselves for 2 hours. Books=interior Film=exterior. The interior has always been most interesting to me, however the downfall with books is inferior use of space, time and action. Maybe theatre is a middle ground? But hell, who really does plays? Only those within walking radius of Broadway?
& what book by Camus?
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
hmm... I do take your word for it, don't get me wrong, but I still feel something is missing.
The reason why I prefer films over books (when it comes to fiction) is because a screenplay is able to convey so much more than a book (because, much like real life, in a film you can ~capture~ whatever it is that you'd capture in real life, unlike books, in which your imagination is filtered by what the author decided to focus)... and, in this case, it makes me sad that I've read a story by Albert Camus in which he describes a very similar situation in a more interesting fashion (except they were in Algeria rather than Japan, and the woman had no one to "click with").
But it is a matter of taste, I'm aware of that. You mentioned Kurosawa and, no matter how much I like Japanese cinema (I do), the only film by Kurosawa I've ever enjoyed was "Hakuchi", inspired by Dostoevsky's book "The Idiot". The rest seems to have this more-japanese-than-thou atmosphere that drives me nuts, which comes across as cheesy to me. |
|
|
|
| diggerz |
| quote: | Originally posted by Bulgatti
|
me too. |
|
|
| Clovis |
| It left enough to the imagination while leading you through the story well. Love this film, its the only movie I've ever gone to see twice in a theater. Scarlett has never been more beautiful. |
|
|
| _Ocean_Drive_ |
| quote: | Originally posted by Bulgatti
:crazy: |
But the price tag was, too! We got the cheapest set-course there (5 courses for 11,000 yen) and the cheapest bottle of Red was 8,000 yen. However, some of the wines and whiskies on that list exceeded 260,000 yen.
But it was darn good food! Sheesh, I wanna go back there soon :(
If you ever go to Tokyo, I highly recommend you budget for dinner there one night. |
|
|
| Bulgatti |
| quote: | Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_
But the price tag was, too! We got the cheapest set-course there (5 courses for 11,000 yen) and the cheapest bottle of Red was 8,000 yen. However, some of the wines and whiskies on that list exceeded 260,000 yen.
But it was darn good food! Sheesh, I wanna go back there soon :(
If you ever go to Tokyo, I highly recommend you budget for dinner there one night. |
Amazing. How many stories up?
10 bucks say you secretly impersonated Murray all night. |
|
|
|
|
