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F.Sonik - Mad House (sup: Sasha, Cattaneo, 16BL...) (pg. 2)
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| jupiterone |
| quote: | Originally posted by bas
Plus I kind of lol'd at this. |
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| Ben Brown |
| quote: | Originally posted by bas
God damn guys :stongue: |
amen |
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| Andrew K |
I would never (and my guess is most of other labels wouldn't either) make up or change a feedback-comment and then post it on the net as it can cause problems to the label if the dj or somebody from his management comes across the post.
That being said, feel free to laugh at the dj's sayings, just keep in mind that for us, it feels good when somebody like Sasha or Hernan takes the time to reply to our promo email, and you should know that they don't do that very often. |
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| RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ben Brown
what's 'smoke and mirrors' about sending a promo to a dj, asking for feedback, and posting the feedback along with release info? |
This kind of feedback is about as genuine and thoughtful as "OMG ch00n!"
So you're right, I guess it's not so much "smoke and mirrors" as it is everyone giving each other really lazy, half-assed, painfully obvious and disingenuous handjobs.
But hey, if those are the kinds of kudos you guys need, hey, by all means - go on. No one ever said they expected it to stop. :) |
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| bas |
| quote: | Originally posted by Andrew K
That being said, feel free to laugh at the dj's sayings, just keep in mind that for us, it feels good when somebody like Sasha or Hernan takes the time to reply to our promo email, and you should know that they don't do that very often. |
I'm not doubting that. I can't even begin to imagine how fantastic it must feel to have a big time dj (especially one that you really admire) say that your track is great. I just thought that you might have been poking fun at all the other threads with dozens of the same sounding comments from pretty much the same djs. No harm was meant. |
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| Andrew K |
well I am not reading so many threads to begin with hehe, but I find it normal for the pretty-much-same djs to reply to many different promos with the same way. After all that's their job, to listen to lots of new tracks and pick the ones they like, and the bigger they are, the more tracks they must have for their gigs.
It's true that there are people who always reply with positive comments, and they annoy me too, but I trust you, we have gotten negative comments for past releases, from those same djs of the list in my first post. |
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| Ben Brown |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
everyone giving each other really lazy, half-assed, painfully obvious and disingenuous handjobs. |
so lets lets get this straight... you are alluding to the opinion (your opinion) that hernan, sasha, 16 bits , nico (logiztik), and all of the others that post "short" feedback share the following qualities:
lazy
half-assed
disingenuous
and you're critizing a label for posting something that you agree is not 'smoke and mirrors', but a legitimate practice, and for a very good song that is getting legitimate support and/or feedback from the dj's that are posted?
am i wrong? awaiting a sincere reply. |
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| RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ben Brown
so lets lets get this straight... you are alluding to the opinion (your opinion) that hernan, sasha, 16 bits , nico (logiztik), and all of the others that post "short" feedback share the following qualities:
lazy
half-assed
disingenuous
and you're critizing a label for posting something that you agree is not 'smoke and mirrors', but a legitimate practice, and for a very good song that is getting legitimate support and/or feedback from the dj's that are posted?
am i wrong? awaiting a sincere reply. |
Yes, you are.
I think you and I just have different definitions of what constitutes "legitimate" feedback.
The only reason any of this so-called feedback makes it into threads like these is because it says "Sasha" or "Hernan" after it, not because it actually says anything about the track itself. They are nothing more than sound bites used to sell records - that is the definition of disingenuous and half-assed.
Summary: Just because you say something is an appropriate practice doesn't mean I have to agree with you. That's the beauty of the internet right there.
I await watching you try to fit the word "legitimate" as many times as you possibly can in whatever smug justification you choose to reply with. |
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| Ben Brown |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
Yes, you are.
I think you and I just have different definitions of what constitutes "legitimate" feedback.
The only reason any of this so-called feedback makes it into threads like these is because it says "Sasha" or "Hernan" after it, not because it actually says anything about the track itself. They are nothing more than sound bites used to sell records - that is the definition of disingenuous and half-assed.
Summary: Just because you say something is an appropriate practice doesn't mean I have to agree with you. That's the beauty of the internet right there.
I await watching you try to fit the word "legitimate" as many times as you possibly can in whatever smug justification you choose to reply with. |
"legitimate" is the most approriate word for the conversation.
i'm just trying to understand your perspective.
what is illegitimate about sasha saying "This sounds really cool." |
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| Jasperovitsj |
| Well, at least the comments for this release come from "famous" or "big" dj's, names that actually mean something commercially. No disrespect to the tons of bedroomdj's and local jocks that no one 20 miles outside of their hometown has ever heard of, as I'm one of them and they have - as much as the big names - the right to listen to fresh tunes and to give their in no way less valuable opinion about them. But lately I've seen a lot of label promotors posting threads here in which they're pimping the tracks with similar comments, only coming from a bunch of names I've never heard of, and that certainly not sound like I should have heard of them. What's the point in giving a long list of unknown names saying "Hey, this rocks!", what commercial value does that hold? Yeah, wow, some random people like this track, I MUST BUY IT NOW!! :eyespop: |
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| Jasperovitsj |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ben Brown
what is illegitimate about sasha saying "This sounds really cool." |
Nothing. But it doesn't really say that much, now does it? You can read the same comment by the same dj in virtually every promotional thread. After a while it just sounds like some polite, almost obligatory and most of all standard "thank you" note that says nothing at all about the track itself. |
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| Andrew K |
| quote: | | The only reason any of this so-called feedback makes it into threads like these is because it says "Sasha" or "Hernan" after it, not because it actually says anything about the track itself. They are nothing more than sound bites used to sell records - that is the definition of disingenuous and half-assed. |
| quote: | | What's the point in giving a long list of unknown names saying "Hey, this rocks!", what commercial value does that hold? |
There are tons of releases on beatport everyday (most of them are below-average quality), and the situation got out of control with the digital-only labels that will release everything.
So from my point of view, the feedback list can be used as a "filter" as it is very hard for the customer to listen and appreciate every new release at beatport daily. So to the fans of Sasha or Hernan sound, it will give them a heads up to check out the release, as they might have never heard of the composer before.
Now about the lesser-known djs in the feedback list, it could also work the other way around. So if you like this release, and you see that somebody else likes it too, you could always check his sound afterwards. |
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