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Krypton
As long as the Palestinians are violently subjugated and the Middle East interfered with, there will always be a pissed off Muslim..
gehzumteufel
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Originally posted by Lira
Interesting point, Ben, but:

Isn't this true for many (if not most) groups out there?

Well let's take Christians for example. They know when someone is ridiculous and they collectively will acknowledge that, including publicly if necessary. Muslims will not do this in general. You may have a select few that do, but very few will. There is a provision in the Koran that provides the ability to call someone basically a radical, but they refuse to ever do this.
pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by Lira
I think there's a book you might want to give to some religious people out there, pkc:



Totally reminds me of you :p


haha, funny you should mention that. this is what im reading at the minute:

Ian
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Originally posted by Krypton
As long as the Palestinians are violently subjugated and the Middle East interfered with, there will always be a pissed off Muslim..


well, if withdrawal from israel & returning it to 'palestine' would stop a lot of the that happens, then maybe it isn't such a bad idea after all.
_Ocean_Drive_
ing hell. Dawkins is truly the DJ Sammy of the science world. The only book he came close to be good at writing was The Blind Watchmaker, and even that was shaky.

If you're gonna read something critical of religion, at least read something intelligent and well-written.



PKC...

First can I politely ask that you resist the urge to make a new thread every time your hero delivers a youtube video. They are admitedly funny from time to time, but...


Second, if you love reading, can I suggest these to you? I think you'd like them...

Both by Paul Davies...

The Goldilocks Enigma

The Mind of God




pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_
PKC...

First can I politely ask that you resist the urge to make a new thread every time your hero delivers a youtube video. They are admitedly funny from time to time, but...


you may politely ask all you like :) but i shall just as politely ignore you.

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Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_
Second, if you love reading, can I suggest these to you? I think you'd like them...

Both by Paul Davies...

The Goldilocks Enigma

The Mind of God


cheers, ill look them up when ive finished the current one :)
Krypton
quote:
Originally posted by Ian
well, if withdrawal from israel & returning it to 'palestine' would stop a lot of the that happens, then maybe it isn't such a bad idea after all.


What's needed is an end to Israeli colonization of Palestinian lands, and an end to the occupation. I don't know of a single nation that when occupied by a foreign army, didn't fight back..

But even Hamas realizes that the Jewish state of Israel isn't going anywhere, and are willing to work some type of compromise. Who will muster the will is anyone's guess.
Ian
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Originally posted by Krypton
What's needed is an end to Israeli colonization of Palestinian lands, and an end to the occupation. I don't know of a single nation that when occupied by a foreign army, didn't fight back..

But even Hamas realizes that the Jewish state of Israel isn't going anywhere, and are willing to work some type of compromise. Who will muster the will is anyone's guess.


it's about time they stopped dicking around, even many westerners admit the creation of israel was a mistake, so why not undo it. All of the people who then complain about the 'west' intefereing in their business then lose their excuse to fight.
saluyamo
Great video, he would have to have some balls to talk like that about muslims though..
Lira
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Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_
ing hell. Dawkins is truly the DJ Sammy of the science world.

Dwarkins > Dawkins ;)
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
haha, funny you should mention that. this is what im reading at the minute:


Hah! :D

So, what are your favourite books on this subject, Pkc? Have you read any of the books written by Sam Harris?

zag2me
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"Occasionally... Just occasionally a small oasis of sanity does emerge from this desert of bollock brained Islamic appeasement..."


ahahahaha what a legend, the guy is a comic genius! Wish I could have seen him live when he used to work in comedy clubs.

About time someone stood up and said this!d
pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by Lira
Dwarkins > Dawkins ;)

Hah! :D

So, what are your favourite books on this subject, Pkc? Have you read any of the books written by Sam Harris?


to be to honest, im a complete noob when it comes to atheist books. the only other one ive ever read is the god delusion. seems like theyre a current fad though; i swear they werent around when i was at school... it had never occurred to me to read a book on such a 'non' subject, but on a whim i borrowed dawkins' effort and really liked it. figured id see who else i liked on the subject.
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