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Modern Tech House, Berliner Trance, and Contemporary Trance (pg. 4)
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| Mr Game+Watch |
Love to hear some more examples of the tech house/minimal that you say uses late 90's trance/prog sounds, i.e. track names... The main clear link I can see from the stuff played back then to the sounds nowadays is Peace Division. These guys were really ahead of their time. Some other artists I can think of that incorporate more percussive or "lush" elements into their song, and would be classified as tech-house and minimal would be: Joel Armstrong, Solomun, Chymera, and some Pig & Dan. But, the drums in lots of tech-house seem too crisp and refined, as opposed to the organic, tribal sound in classic prog, not to mention the music palette stems away from lush pads and sweeps into slightly more abrasive, electro sounds.
I think right now the best example of tech-house as the heir to the prog throne would be Transitions 4. Although it has many names associated with minimal and techno (Claude VonStroke, Pig & Dan, Loco Dice), the way it's mixed and layered clearly harkens back to the darker days of prog (2001 if we can pinpoint an exact year).
And finally, the perfect example of minimal, trancelike music is Robert Hood... stripped down, repetitive, driving, but the melodies in his songs morph ever so subtly. |
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| RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mr Game+Watch
Love to hear some more examples of the tech house/minimal that you say uses late 90's trance/prog sounds, i.e. track names... |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mr Game+Watch
Peace Division. Joel Armstrong, Solomun, Chymera, and some Pig & Dan. . |
:p
In all seriousness though - some of Funk D'Voids stuff I think is reminiscent of older sounding trance, stuff from Shonky, Sei A, DJinxx, a lot of the new stuff on Cocoon, and Efdemin come readily to mind. |
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| nefardec |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
I dunno, I see the new tech house as somewhat different from old trance.
It has the repetitive melodic and hypnotic part down, but not that much of the "trippiness" and spaciness I associate with a lot of "Berliner trance."
There are definitely shared features, though. |
yeah you should check out some more music :p
these obviously aren't trance but they some of the closest things in this day and age
Vermittelnde-elemente - Leittongeleise
D5 - Sides Of Space
Delta Funktionen - Estuary/Nebula
also a lot of the upbeat dub/chain reaction techno like
substance & vainqueur - reverberation/reverberate
substance & vainqueur - surface/immersion
substance & vainqueur - resonance/libration
and some david alvarado stuff |
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| Sykonee |
Associate of mine came up with a good term for this sound: closet trance.
It's trance that's too afraid to admit it.;) |
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| RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sykonee
Associate of mine came up with a good term for this sound: closet trance.
It's trance that's too afraid to admit it.;) |
:stongue:
Awesome.
I'm taking it back just like Randall reclaimed "Porch Monkey" in Clerks 2. :o |
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| RJT |
Lol, I have just been listening to/hammering the Berghain tracks/mixes nonstop lately. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
I listened to all of the samples, although not all the way through for each, and I still think that most of them sound like stripped down techno rather than trance. Maybe I just have too narrow an idea of what "trance" is.
One thing I noticed that was "missing" a lot of the time was melodic content in the higher registers, an absence I definitely associate with techno rather than trance. This may be why the fifth sample (Byetone - "Plastic Star" (Sleeparchive Remix)) and the twelfth (Substance - "Relish" (Shed Remix)) struck me as the most "trancey": they both had melodies higher up rather than having nearly all of their activity in the low end... |
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| nefardec |
yeah they're not trance
but this is the musical descendent and cultural equivalent today imo
edit - it would be silly and disingenuous to make music that outwardly sounds like older music, when the cultural context, history, and technology have changed |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| What did you mean by "cultural equivalent?" |
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| nefardec |
well if you go to berghain or some of the other similar spots in berlin, you'll find the sort of crazies that you would have found at dubmission, etc ,or i'm sure the grown up versions of them
also the drugs have changed |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by nefardec
also the drugs have changed |
Coke and K rather than ecstasy? :clown:
Which kind of begs an interesting question: what the heck drives "trends" in drug usage within a music scene?
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