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Just Bought New Computer...Is This Good? (pg. 4)
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| MikeyN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Invasionmix
Would this be from Canada Computers?
Meh the Zalman 9500 is overrated and overpriced imo. Thermalright Ultra 120 :D or the Cooler Master Hyper 212 is a lot better for almost half the price. |
Yup it sure is.
I see your thermalright Ultra 120, and raise you a Scythe copper Ninja at a mere 1.2Kg. |
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| smuncky |
O/Cing is a good option in a couple of years where you might want to catch up to current speeds but don't want to upgrade your cpu.
i have a 6450 but haven't OC'd it because there is no need for it now. however, when i have programs that'll need that extra ghz, i'll OC it easily. |
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| r5a |
| quote: | Originally posted by zokissima
Which fan is that exactly? You're thinking of the bigger Antec cases. |
Yea, I thought I saw nine hundred in the first post lol.
my bad. |
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| r5a |
Diginut:
The thing is, the new Core 2 Duos and Quads are overclocking machines, and it is well known they are able to be overclocked without damage. Like someone mentioned you can OC on stock air.
Most steppings the g0s with the Q6600 for example can do this.
And it is noticeable. It's the difference of choppy game play to smooth gameplay.
Edit: There is a lot of concern and negative views on overclocking on this board.. Sure OCing was dangerous way back in the day but now with such amazing aftermarket coolers and just general all around technology improvements (besides, most of the chips you guys buy are just the high end chip declocked down) it's not as bad as it seems.
Edit 2: His machine can destroy whatever he wants to do (dvd ripping, editing and such) |
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| Invasionmix |
| quote: | Originally posted by MikeyN
Yup it sure is.
I see your thermalright Ultra 120, and raise you a Scythe copper Ninja at a mere 1.2Kg. |
I fold :( |
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| r5a |
The Ultra 120E is the best aftermarket CPU cooler imo. |
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| malek |
yeah temperatures... who cares.
The real question is, does the fan sound like a jet engine? |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by r5a
Diginut:
The thing is, the new Core 2 Duos and Quads are overclocking machines, and it is well known they are able to be overclocked without damage. Like someone mentioned you can OC on stock air. |
Whenever you hear the words "well known", you know that a flimsy argument is coming up.
More correctly, it's a popular belief that they can be overclocked "safely". We don't really know how true it is, because those CPUs have only been on the market for a few years, and OC tends to take its toll slowly.
| quote: | | And it is noticeable. It's the difference of choppy game play to smooth gameplay. |
That's nonsense. If you have proof, I'd love to see it. Almost every performance metric related to gaming these days rides on the video card(s).
| quote: | | (besides, most of the chips you guys buy are just the high end chip declocked down) |
And as I pointed out - this has been done for a reason. Why would Intel manufacture a chip that runs at a high clock speed, and deliberately sell it as a different model number for a lower price? Does that make financial sense to you? You call it market segmenting if you want - I call it BS. |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by malek
yeah temperatures... who cares.
The real question is, does the fan sound like a jet engine? |
Indeed. I much prefer having almost totally silent, passively-cooled machines for production and media center.
Fan noise is a stress-inducer. Eliminating that is far better in a "mood" sense than squeezing out a few extra cycles. |
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| kotsy |
| quote: | Originally posted by love_child
CPU: Intel |
No.. this is not a good compuater
AMD FTW! |
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| Invasionmix |
| quote: | Originally posted by kotsy
No.. this is not a good compuater
AMD FTW! |
AMD lost it's edge about 2-3 years ago. It messed up bad when they released the socket 939/940 then cancelled the whole platform after a year and announcing socket AM2 which is basically the same thing but utilizes DDR2. AMD's peak was when the Athlon XPs were THE chip to get a few years back. Core 2 Duo/Quads are outselling AMDs really bad at the moment. |
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| Dr. Z |
Overclocking 101
Chapter 1: Electronics and Time
All electronics denature over time. The reason for this is, elements in the circuitry oxidize, and perfrom other chemical reactions which cause the circuit to change perfromance. For an example, resistors will increase in resistance over time as the coil inside the resistor becomes less conductive due to oxidation. If this resistor is part of an amplifier circuit, the increase in resistance will increase or decrease the amplification depending on the circuit layout. Due to this phenomenon, all electronic devices will stop working eventually.
Chapter 2: Temperature Effects
Like with many things in nature, temperature changes the rate of reaction in a system. Regarding oxidation, the higher the temperature in the system, the faster the oxidation will occur. The reason is that the higher temperature causes higher molecular motion in the lattice and introduces faster moving oxigen molecules into the system. Each element induces a faster rate of reaction.
Chapter 3: Overclocking
Overclocking increases the CPU clock frequency by multiplying the BASE clock frequency by a multiplier. The BASE clock's freqency never changes. Since the generator never changes, additional heat is not introduced from the generator, but from the remaining components of a processor (90% transistors, 10% other pieces). The higher frequency causes more frequent left and right electron motion due to the increased clock and causing heat to be introdued throught the processor. This causes the lifetime of the processor to decrease.
Chapter 4: Business Strategy
Even though default multipliers could be changed to maximum at production level, this would decrease the liftime of the chips and would not meet the standardized requirements. However, if the multiplier is lowered to a low value, the chips would last too long and would not be financialy sound.
can you tell i'm bored at work? |
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