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agentdansmith
Can anyone tell me how to Normalise my mixes within Audacity please? I'm obviously doing something wrong but whenever I do it, my mix ends up becoming even quieter.. :rolleyes:

So how do you guys do it exactly?

I use the Record Output from my Xone92 which means that I cant control the overall level being sent to the PC from the mixer without increasing the Gains on each channel, but when I do this the level meters on the mixer start to hit the red even though the wave form is not clipping within Audacity.

The sound quality is very good, just also quiet too.

Any tips?
RJT
Edit -> Select All

Effects -> Normalize

Leave it at 0db and let 'er rip.

:)
agentdansmith
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Originally posted by RJT
Edit -> Select All

Effects -> Normalize

Leave it at 0db and let 'er rip.

:)


Ok, I'll try that cheers. I think its set at -3db as a default...
RJT
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Originally posted by agentdansmith
Ok, I'll try that cheers. I think its set at -3db as a default...


Hmmm, maybe I changed my default settings then. Mine is at 0db.

Either way - try it at both. Hope it works for ya. :)
agentdansmith
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Originally posted by RJT
Hmmm, maybe I changed my default settings then. Mine is at 0db.

Either way - try it at both. Hope it works for ya. :)


Ok, downloaded the latest Audacity which let me set the db manually at 0db and I ran it across the whole mix. Listened to it in places this morning and it hasn't made any difference to the volume at all.

Strange... why would this be? Is it because my levels were pretty much spot on to begin with?
Lunar Phase 7
Well it just means that it was already peaking around that anyway.

All it takes is one track to be hitting the 0dB mark and normalising won't have any effect really, and if you clip in some places it will actually quiten your mix.

As a side point you may want to normalise to just under 0dB like -0.3 for example cause some ty devices distort when they have audio making at 0dB at a decent volume. If it's just for yourself though, I doubt it matters all.
agentdansmith
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Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7
Well it just means that it was already peaking around that anyway.

All it takes is one track to be hitting the 0dB mark and normalising won't have any effect really, and if you clip in some places it will actually quiten your mix.

As a side point you may want to normalise to just under 0dB like -0.3 for example cause some ty devices distort when they have audio making at 0dB at a decent volume. If it's just for yourself though, I doubt it matters all.


This makes a lot of sense, cheers.

So how do other DJs get their mixes to be quite loud then? Foe example, I have DJ mixes that only need my amp to be on 35 (volume), but my mixes always need to be on 40+ to be nearer the same volume.
Storyteller
Use the compressor, threshold around -12 to -6, and ratio somewhere like 2:1 to 6:1 or so... And turn on normalizing to 0dB as well... That should get your mixes pretty loud :)
agentdansmith
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Originally posted by Storyteller
Use the compressor, threshold around -12 to -6, and ratio somewhere like 2:1 to 6:1 or so... And turn on normalizing to 0dB as well... That should get your mixes pretty loud :)


Is all this within Audacity?
Lunar Phase 7
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Originally posted by agentdansmith
Is all this within Audacity?


Yup.

Compression all the way. It also will help any slight volume dips between mixes less obvious, it's a wonderful thing. Unless you like dynamics.

agentdansmith
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Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7
Yup.

Compression all the way. It also will help any slight volume dips between mixes less obvious, it's a wonderful thing. Unless you like dynamics.


Brilliant - Could you explain to me what control Threshold and Ratio have over the sound? Just so that I know what I'm doing exactly.
Storyteller
Compression reduces the volume of the sound when it goes above the threshold.

The ammount of reduction is set by the ratio. 6:1 means it reduces the volume with factor 6. So if a sound goes 6dB above the threshold it will now only go 1dB over the threshold.

The compressor of audacity can normalize to 0dB after compression which leaves you with a louder mix afterwards :).
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