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Does Ebonics exemplify American laziness or efficiency? (pg. 4)
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| lücid |
| learning ebonics certainly helped me communicate better in my interracial relationship. |
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| RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by lücid
learning ebonics certainly helped me communicate better in my interracial relationship. |
A+ :haha:
It's hard for African Peekskillians and Caucasian Appletonians to get along, traditionally.
Like the Montegue's and Capulet's. :o |
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| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by lücid
learning ebonics certainly helped me communicate better in my interracial relationship. |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
A+ :haha:
It's hard for African Peekskillians and Caucasian Appletonians to get along, traditionally.
Like the Montegue's and Capulet's. :o |
ROFLMAO |
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| chimera66 |
| quote: | Originally posted by gehzumteufel
This is the type of reaction (except the "I hate the n word" thing as that just breeds more hate and racism, as it empowers the word) from black people makes me so ing happy. I really enjoy it when a black person stands up and says these sorts of things. |
i do try...it's because i'm african-america (truly because my family is actually in kenya mostly). my parents speak three languages as do most people in kenya so why the hell can't some americans speak one...english? they should feel embarrased by the fact that they can't communicate in their own language.
*that word doesn't empower me. i don't like it because people use it all the time then black people say well that's our word then put it into rap music bought by mostly white americans. ridiculous. |
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| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by chimera66
i do try...it's because i'm african-america (truly because my family is actually in kenya mostly). my parents speak three languages as do most people in kenya so why the hell can't some americans speak one...english? they should feel embarrased by the fact that they can't communicate in their own language.
*that word doesn't empower me. i don't like it because people use it all the time then black people say well that's our word then put it into rap music bought by mostly white americans. ridiculous. |
Well considering that, do you approve of the "African-American" label for blacks that have no idea of their origin? |
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| chimera66 |
| i don't like the term african-american, never really have |
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| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by chimera66
i don't like the term african-american, never really have |
haha I hate the whole -american term period. You are either or American. Period. |
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| spanglo |
Don't forget to hate on the Hawaiian Islanders that speak Pidgin. Stupid Samoans.
Anyone who talks funny is dumb. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by david.michael
I was thinking today that African American Vernacular English, though often looked down upon as being a "lazy" or "ignorant" way to verbally communicate, is actually a prime example of language efficiency. |
That's how all vernacular languages work.
| quote: | Originally posted by david.michael
Phonology
- Conversion of "th" to "d" word-initially; [example: "This" becomes "Dis"... 25% word reduction] |
Both "this" and "dis" have the same number of phonemes (namely, three).
| quote: | Originally posted by david.michael
- Words ending in "ing" drop the "g". [example: "You know nothing" to "You know nothin"] |
Nothing new in the history of the English language.
| quote: | Originally posted by david.michael
- Homorganic final consonant clusters that share the same laryngeal settings are reduced. [example: "test" is pronounced "tes", but "sing" is still pronounced "sing" (or "sang"). |
Once again, that's nothing new in the history of the English language. As for laryngeal settings, it's nonsense.
| quote: | Originally posted by david.michael
- Deletion of final consonants, resulting in a glottal stop. [example: find may be pronounced fãː]. "S" and "z" sounds are also often deleted. |
I take it you've never met someone from Britain.
| quote: | Originally posted by david.michael
Deletion
- Phrase abbreviation / intermediate word removal. [example: "You know no other nigga" becomes "You know nann nigga". Source: Trick Daddy 1998. Some phrases have a more complex breakdown. For example, "You didn't have any idea?" can be reduced to "You didn't know?", to "You ain't know?", to "yee-know?". Another example is "You did not show up", which becomes "yeen-show". Source: La Chat 2001.]
- The copula "be" is often dropped. [examples: "You crazy! (You are crazy)", Where you at? (Where are you at?)] |
Yet another common feature of vernacular languages. No one bothers to say every single phoneme unless they're bloody narcissists and/or are speaking a foreign language.
| quote: | Originally posted by david.michael
Aspect Marking
- The most distinguishing feature of Ebonics is the use of forms of "be" to mark aspect in verb phrases. In standard English, you would do this using adverbs such as "usually".
Examples:
He talkin' ==> He is currently talking.
He be talkin' ==> He talkin' frequently or habitually. (He be talkin' daily).
He stay workin' ==> He is always working.
He been had dat job ==> He has had that job for a long time and still has it.
He finna dance ==> He is preparing to begin dancing. ("Finna" is a contraction of "fixing to"). |
"Stay" is a form of the verb "to be"? Now that's efficiency!
| quote: | Originally posted by david.michael
Negation
- Use of "ain't" as a general negative indicator. In Ebonics, it can be used where am not, isn't, aren't, haven't, and hasn't would be used in SE, as well as in lieu of don't, doesn't, or didn't. [example: I ain't know that.] |
And that makes language more efficient how?
| quote: | Originally posted by david.michael
General Slang
- The general slang terminology in AAVE is quite efficient in itself.
Examples:
Bling: "Jewelry which is very shiny"
Sling or "slang": General use term which refers to performing some kind of work. "Slinging rocks" means to sell crack-cocaine on the streets.
Additionally, new contractions are often made and used. "Imma" for "I'm going to".
Thoughts? |
Funny post. Makes no sense whatsoever, though :p |
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| david.michael |
| Well, way to suck all the fun out of that. :P |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by david.michael
Well, way to suck all the fun out of that. :P |
I was afraid someone might take that seriously. You know, linguistics is already unpopular the way it is :D |
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| david.michael |
lol
I knew I was baiting you right in to this thread anyway when I posted it ;) |
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