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Say Goodbye to New Orleans [Hurricane Gustav updates/info] (pg. 7)
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| Rose |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fledz
59 people died yesterday. Not that great...:nervous: |
78 people now.
and now it turned into a Category 4. Where ever it's headed..those people are ed.
| quote: | Originally posted by Theresa
Well, I guess I will find out how Jamaica fared.
Leaving in a few hours to catch my flight to Jamaica!!
Have a great week everyone!! :) |
I would have not gone if I were you. Jamaica is at the moment. Everything is flooded and destroyed. No point in going. I don't know, it sounds like a crappy vacation to me.
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it's such a large storm we're getting rain and wind from it here in miami :wtf: |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
Damn. Mandatory evacuations across Louisiana and the Houston, TX area. The worst part is that they're expecting that all of the newly-built reinforced levees that replaced the broken Katrina ones won't even be strained - the bulk of the storm surge will affect more old levees on the other side of the city - the same sort that failed three years ago during Katrina. |
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| cmay119 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
Damn. Mandatory evacuations across Louisiana and the Houston, TX area. The worst part is that they're expecting that all of the newly-built reinforced levees that replaced the broken Katrina ones won't even be strained - the bulk of the storm surge will affect more old levees on the other side of the city - the same sort that failed three years ago during Katrina. |
Is the storm starting to move westward as the meteorologists predicted, a couple days ago? Or staying on the same heading that it was going, when coming up the gulf? |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| quote: | Originally posted by cmay119
Is the storm starting to move westward as the meteorologists predicted, a couple days ago? Or staying on the same heading that it was going, when coming up the gulf? |
It's moving due NW, but it'll still clip N'awlins.
http://www.stormpulse.com/tropical-storm-gustav-2008 |
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| elFreak |
lol...my mom went to cuba yesterday.
crazy bitch. |
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| nchs09 |
| quote: | Originally posted by elFreak
lol...my mom went to cuba yesterday.
bitch. |
fixed. |
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| elFreak |
| quote: | Originally posted by nchs09
whore |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
MSNBC is reporting that the eye is trending East of the projected path... which would bring the northern wall of the hurricane right over New Orleans.
This is starting to feel like Katrina pt. 2:
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Moira Whelan
What's Wrong with this Hurricane?
I just noticed that the daily brief customarily done in advance of a hurricane is happening because Gustov is bearing down on the Gulf Coast...but a big shift here: the briefing is being given by NORTHCOM. So what does this tell us and why does it matter? It tells us that things are as broken as they were before Katrina.
The military, like EPA, Commerce, or anyone else, is only involved in emergency management to the point that they are requested to do so by the governor or the FEMA director (who acts on behalf of the President).
When it comes to disasters, the governor is always in charge. At any point, he or she can call in their state's National Guard, and/or ask other governors for their help in augmenting response efforts with their national guard or other resources. If a governor is worried things are getting out of control, they ask the President to provide help through FEMA at any point before or after the incident. FEMA is then in charge of coordinating the resources of the federal government to support the governor and the state. In a sense, when FEMA is working properly--as it did under Clinton--when the FEMA director tells another Federal agency to do something, it's as if the President is calling. The government agency is expected to deliver and cut through red tape to make things happen and happen fast.
There is no allowance or legal authority for the Department of Defense to take any sort of control or command in this scenario. In a hurricane, DoD, like Human Services, Transportation, etc, all work for FEMA and the governor of the impacted state.
This is done for a very specific and important reason: here in America, we believe that governors should have control over their own states. The federal government needs to be there to help, but they absolutely do not move in and take over. We also do not believe that the military should ever forcibly operate inside the United States unless they are under civilian control.
With NORTHCOM taking the lead on briefing the public, it's clear the Bush administration wants to send the message that everything is under control. Instead, to those that do this for a living, the message is clear that everything is absolutely and completely broken.
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Perhaps the state governments need help. Perhaps FEMA is not up to the job. Perhaps the Bush Administration simply wants a uniform on camera, and this way of doing things is preferable to things happening the way that they should (a process, by the way, that WORKED before Bush screwed it up).
NORTHCOM taking the lead in public relations is a clear indication that nothing has been fixed in DHS and FEMA since Katrina. As a result, there is no confidence in FEMA's ability to respond to this hurricane. With NORTHCOM at the helm, the Bush Administration either doesn't care if, or doesn't want, the systems to work. This Administration has issued a lot of reports since Katrina (none of which suggest the military should take control, Incidentally) but no one has been held accountable and the lessons have not been learned. The priority is still on preventing embarrassment, not keeping people safe. |
Now there's word as well that McCain may give his acceptance speech Thursday night from the expected disaster area. |
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| Krypton |
| Time for New Orleans to start throwing some hurricane parties. |
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| Lira |
| Bleh, hurricane parties blow :p |
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| Vlad |
Ive already gone and updated the US map.
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