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Ramadan, and night shifts (pg. 3)
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| Nayil |
| quote: | Originally posted by diesel_tron3000
like about three years ago i lived next door to this mosque in the bronx. ramadan was crazy there were mad people in the street sometimes. there was no prayer tower with a guy chanting stuff from it like in the movies. that would have been sweet. occasionally from my window perch i would see shady people watching it and if you walked by they would have an ear piece in. yeahh federal gov'ment!~@!!
patriot act, patriot act! |
sad ... but Islam does not tolerate violence & people misinterpret things and take it their own way in the name of this religion.
oh well.... I know we will always be hated |
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| ZeJayMan |
| It's my friends birthday tonight and i'm heading down to his mum's place to celebrate, because it's during Ramadan the feast is going to be huuuuge. |
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| Beat Blog |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nayil
Islam does not tolerate violence |
I wouldn't presume to know more about your own religion, however I think Islam does tolerate violence.
If nothing else the existence of groups like Al-Quaeda and the whole concept of mujaheddin and Jihad aptly proves that.
Of course, this element is not unique to the Islamic faith (The Crusades, the IRA, Tamil Tigers etcetera), but it's incorrect to deny it and probably worse to pass it off as the work of "fanatics or separatists" for whom you claim no responsibility. |
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| RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Beat Blog
I wouldn't presume to know more about your own religion, however I think Islam does tolerate violence.
If nothing else the existence of groups like Al-Quaeda and the whole concept of mujaheddin and Jihad aptly proves that.
Of course, this element is not unique to the Islamic faith (The Crusades, the IRA, Tamil Tigers etcetera), but it's incorrect to deny it and probably worse to pass it off as the work of "fanatics or separatists" for whom you claim no responsibility. |
That's a lot like saying because the Branch Davidians horded guns and thought David Koresch was the second coming Christ means that all Christians horde guns and believe Koresch was actually Christ, or better yet, it's like saying that because some Mormon's practice polygamy, all Christians must tolerate it.
Every single religious tradition I can think of has some kind of eccentric fringe group, that hardly means that people whose faith is similar (read "not the same") tolerates every aspect of all variations on their faith. |
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| Jake Benson |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nayil
sad ... but Islam does not tolerate violence & people misinterpret things and take it their own way in the name of this religion.
oh well.... I know we will always be hated |
So what's with all these Muslim countries killing gays? I know some of the sodomy laws were actually set up under British rule. But how much of the sodomy laws are credited towards Islam? |
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| RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jake Benson
So what's with all these Muslim countries killing gays? I know some of the sodomy laws were actually set up under British rule. But how much of the sodomy laws are credited towards Islam? |
How many can you come up with?
:conf:
And what's wrong with people being against homosexuality, drug use, or any other lifestyle choice based on their religion?
And I think it's pretty unfair to distill all of Islam down to "Muslim countries killing gays." |
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| Nayil |
| quote: | Originally posted by Beat Blog
I wouldn't presume to know more about your own religion, however I think Islam does tolerate violence.
If nothing else the existence of groups like Al-Quaeda and the whole concept of mujaheddin and Jihad aptly proves that.
Of course, this element is not unique to the Islamic faith (The Crusades, the IRA, Tamil Tigers etcetera), but it's incorrect to deny it and probably worse to pass it off as the work of "fanatics or separatists" for whom you claim no responsibility. |
I'm not going to debate here.
Everyone is entitled to opinions, so are you. You may however want to read up on extremism, which is strictly against the religion's policy. |
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| Nayil |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jake Benson
So what's with all these Muslim countries killing gays? I know some of the sodomy laws were actually set up under British rule. But how much of the sodomy laws are credited towards Islam? |
lol which country killed Gays ?
What does your religion say about gay people ? |
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| Jake Benson |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
How many can you come up with?
:conf: |
http://sodomylaws.org/
| quote: | | And what's wrong with people being against homosexuality, drug use, or any other lifestyle choice based on their religion? |
What's wrong is when you start killing people or jailing them for life just cuz they smoked pot or kissed another dude.
| quote: | | And I think it's pretty unfair to distill all of Islam down to "Muslim countries killing gays." |
Sorry, not all Muslim countries kill gays, just many of them have laws that specifically target the killing of gays. My bad. And I said Muslim countries, not Islam. Muslims in America are for the most part normal integrated Middle Class people. |
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| RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jake Benson
What's wrong is when you start killing people or jailing them for life just cuz they smoked pot or kissed another dude.
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How many first world countries do this? :conf: |
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| Jake Benson |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
How many first world countries do this? :conf: |
I live in West Hollywood. Pot is legal here. So is gay sex. Can't say much about pot and the rest of the US. But there are no laws restricting sodomy in the US, nor are there any sodomy laws in South America (except for a few retarded islands), nor in Europe. |
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| Nayil |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jake Benson
I live in West Hollywood. Pot is legal here. So is gay sex. Can't say much about pot and the rest of the US. But there are no laws restricting sodomy in the US, nor are there any sodomy laws in South America (except for a few retarded islands), nor in Europe. |
I must agree, some Muslim countries are governed by vegetables. Some of them have absolutely no education, and live on oil.
But I wouldn't judge the religion on the same basis. It isn't Islams fault, and Islam does not support killing or punishing people regardless.
Punishing is upto God. |
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