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Vinyls>cd's and why?
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| Dj DoomForce |
What makes vinyls superior to cd's and why?
when it comes to mixing that is,and to sound quality.
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| dmcilwaine |
people like vinyl cus you have that "hands on" control of the music, you have the classic "vinyl sound" and when people think of dj they think technics turntables & scratching and whatever, cds aren't as common, vinyl has been the staple for so long
but cds are good aswell, you have better sound quality and with pioneer cdj-1000s they have a similar hands on feel, aswell as use of cd-rs, i think cd decks may have more accurate pitch control aswell and looping features etc
it just depends what you prefer, each have their good points |
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| ampburner |
Not true that CD quality is superior over vinyl, however, this argument is oooold, so I won't even bother to try and explain...
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| DJ NEILSON |
cd quality is equal to vinyl initially, but vinyls sear down etc. digital media willtake over one day wether it be a CD or mini disk or the mp3. i collect Cd's and i know theyll last forever. as dmcilwaine said they each have adavantages, although CD's are getting al the advantages taht vinyls ahev these days. i could argue that cd mixing is more precise, quality is better, you get more for your money blah blah, arguemtn works vice versa with vinyl. i can mix jsut as easy with each. ive had teh luxury of mixing with pioneer DJ's 100's adn there are phat. just a digital turntabel with loadsa features. seemless looping for example, its the most accurate ive ever seen before. digital displays for timing etc. storing cue points etc. i hope it dosent go computerised tho since a DJ just selecting a traclksit would be e. CD's just make the jobe easier un my opinion. One reason which i regret going into CD's is that it is harder to get stuff on that format. however ive become and expert on where to locate trance CD's singles and no i buy two of everythign selling the otehr copy on ebay for massive prices for those who cant get em.
p.s. im not starting an arguement |
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| Palivar |
Vinyl be betta cuz I gotsa bling bling watch dat look good when I spin
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| tu_face |
cd's have a smaller frequency width (as in 44k whereas vinyl is 70sumthin k) and before you all blurt "but u cant hear those ranges".. the frequencies that are cut off at the top end and bottome end are infact inaudiable, but they affect the way the audiable sound sounds...
so, theoretically vinyl is better quality than CD. in practise however unless you have top notch equipment kept in v good condition this wont be true, as with TTs u have things like fluff to think about, and needles etc... |
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| Sly One |
| I've got no problem with either, but I do have a problem in that when I play a set with CDs, people whinge that they didn't see me do anything. I may start taking to waving a vinyl around every now and then so they don't get bored...! |
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| Dmatrox |
| quote: | Originally posted by dmcilwaine
people like vinyl cus you have that "hands on" control of the music, you have the classic "vinyl sound" and when people think of dj they think technics turntables & scratching and whatever, cds aren't as common, vinyl has been the staple for so long
but cds are good aswell, you have better sound quality and with pioneer cdj-1000s they have a similar hands on feel, aswell as use of cd-rs, i think cd decks may have more accurate pitch control aswell and looping features etc
it just depends what you prefer, each have their good points |
Yeah vinyl is definately hands and funner, its easy to see where quiet parts are, and exactly where is finishes. The technics do have a more accurate pitch than the cdj100's though, im not sure about the 1000's since they are incredibily expensive. |
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| Sly One |
Actually the CDJ1000s are about the same price as Technics 1210s, but that's still efin' expensive. The CDJ1000s have a +-0.05% pitch slider accuracy whereas all the others on the market are +-0.1% (like mine). This is inadequate for holding a mix for more than 10 seconds in most cases so most of us just work with a finger on the pitch bend buttons. Easy when you get used to it, just don't get too engrossed in the mixer :)
So to summarise, it is much easier to mix with vinyl, it is more "fun", but there are more associated problems and annoyances and vinyl is really heavy.
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| Pjotr G |
| quote: | Originally posted by tu_face
cd's have a smaller frequency width (as in 44k whereas vinyl is 70sumthin k) and before you all blurt "but u cant hear those ranges".. the frequencies that are cut off at the top end and bottome end are infact inaudiable, but they affect the way the audiable sound sounds...
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So what you are saying is, when I record directly from mixer from turntable to pc in 48 khz, in the spectrum analyser I should see signal above 20 khz? |
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| tu_face |
no because unless ur using floating point wave technology then ur computer wont recognise any frequencies higher than what a CD will do anyway.
it also depends on the vinyl aswell.. vinyls have the capacity to go higher but i dont think they all do.. ppl sometimes cut off the top end during mastering because they think because u dont hear it it doesnt make a difference. |
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| davinox |
| quote: | Originally posted by Palivar
Vinyl be betta cuz I gotsa bling bling watch dat look good when I spin
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playa, u stoled ma bling!!! |
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