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Somalian woman stoned to death for adultery. (pg. 4)
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| elFreak |
| yeah they just turned everything into salt. |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yohan
My understanding is that Jesus was just a minor prophet, a miracle worker but his words don't mean anything compared to the Quran and the hadith? |
Major prophet, he figures quite highly. The hierarchy goes Mohammad > Jesus > Moses. How could Jesus be only a minor figure when he was the only human taken to heaven alive and remains there waiting to lead the final war against evil (following which he will be entombed beside Mohammad)... sounds pretty important. Moreover; the Qu'ran considers the Gospels and the books of Moses to be the word of Allah. In fact, the Qu'ran states that it's validity can be tested by it's consistency with these earlier books. Which is why I find it strange that if it is supposed to be so consistent with the gospels it can be so far off on this one (especially given that Jesus' "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" zinger was delivered under pretty much the exact same circumstance). |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yohan
Ancient Assyrian/Babylonian laws? Pretty sure the Bible said something bad about adulterers in Deuteronomy |
He stated that he was pretty sure that developed nations did the same thing at some point in their history... I would not consider Ancient Assyria or Judea to be "developed nations." |
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| Yohan |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
He stated that he was pretty sure that developed nations did the same thing at some point in their history... I would not consider Ancient Assyria or Judea to be "developed nations." |
oops. i misread the that part
does anyone have good book recommendation concerning development of shariah law? looking at our muslim friends here... |
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| chinamon |
| quote: | Originally posted by Prometheus Xex
I'm saying that if this act is as heinous in their country as it seems to be then why is the guy not being hunted down and "dealt with" in the same manner? Unless I'm not up with the times, it still takes two for this sort of thing? |
it does take two to tango but you seem to forget that some cultures view men being superior to women. |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by chinamon
it does take two to tango but you seem to forget that some cultures view men being superior to women. |
In truth, Islam would mandate that the male involved suffer the same punishment as the female; however, it seems the clerics are less eager to dispense this "justice" upon men. |
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| Spin Laden |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
He stated that he was pretty sure that developed nations did the same thing at some point in their history... I would not consider Ancient Assyria or Judea to be "developed nations." |
no, developed nations do not do these things. We are talking about these nations before they became "developed." At one point, they too were underdeveloped and had similarly punitive measures to what you are seeing in underdeveloped or non-western countries today.
Will these countries ever "evolve?" Well, we ARE reading about this on the internet today, no? No doubt in my mind mass media technology (among other aspects) has played an enormous role in putting pressure on these countries to change respective laws. |
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| Yohan |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
In truth, Islam would mandate that the male involved suffer the same punishment as the female; however, it seems the clerics are less eager to dispense this "justice" upon men. |
this is not a religious thing, but cultural thing
islam, if read just from Quran, is quite liberal text. but cultural and retarded fundamentalist perceptions gives islam a bad name |
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| ÖZmözis |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yohan
this is not a religious thing, but cultural thing
islam, if read just from Quran, is quite liberal text. but cultural and retarded fundamentalist perceptions gives islam a bad name |
End of thread right there...
"Not a religious thing, but cultural thing" |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spin Laden
no, developed nations do not do these things. We are talking about these nations before they became "developed." At one point, they too were underdeveloped and had similarly punitive measures to what you are seeing in underdeveloped or non-western countries today. |
You're going to have to substantiate this claim because I'm pretty sure it's a bull moral relativism claim that is not actually supported by fact. If you are to equate the present social-economic level of development in much of the Islamic world to the history of the developed nations then you'd have to place it at the equivalent of Europe's feudal period. Please advise me; in exactly which Medieval European countries was adultery punishable by stoning? |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yohan
this is not a religious thing, but cultural thing
islam, if read just from Quran, is quite liberal text. but cultural and retarded fundamentalist perceptions gives islam a bad name |
Indeed... that was the thrust of my post... the religion is being misused and maligned. |
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| UmmiE |
Alot of you are missing the key point here based on whats said in the article the lady herself wanted this punishment:-
| quote: | Originally posted by Prometheus Xex
Islamists said the woman, named as Asha Ibrahim Dhuhulow, wanted punishment under Sharia law.
Local leader Sheikh Hayakallah said: "She was asked several times to review her confession but she stressed that she wanted Sharia law and the deserved punishment to apply."
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