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| Seppuku |
| quote: | Originally posted by nchs09
Just as useless as a McCain vote. |
I agree, oh well. Maybe next time I'll have better candidates to choose from. |
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| Caution_BiPolar |
Both candidates are guilty of false advertising, so I'm not going to call someone ignorant for reading a website that states one or the other is going to lower or raise taxes.
However, I feel the democratic party is doing a much better job at misleading the general "ignorant" public into false claims.
I'm a McCain supporter. I believe he is correct in stating that he has no intentions of raising anyone's taxes.
I'm also dead against the concept of adding more taxes onto our businesses. The US unemployment rate is at a record high, and that's all we need is for Obama to tax the snot out of the businesses we have left, so they can lay off more people, or better yet, outsource thousands of more jobs to other countries. Yeah, it seems like a great idea to tax in excess of 30% for these business, but what does he plan to push it toward? 40- 50%? That's insane! Heck, if I were operating a company and knew I could base it in India, and hire people in India, and profit 50 times more than I could here, I would too!
So in essence, Obama's great plan will be the final plummet of this economy. Then we'll have to be taxed even MORE to pay for all these people collecting unemployment benefits because their bosses and CEO's realize it's not beneficial to hire someone here.
Taking that into consideration, any statement that the tax increase will effect 1% of the population is a flat out lie. It's eventually and inevitably hurt us all.
Also, any candidate that will not even respect the morals this country was founded on wins no respect from me. |
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| PVDfan07 |
What is so funny Sam? Hard to believe I don't agree with Obama's positions? I understand it seems to be the cool thing to do to support Obama, but I don't mind being hated on. I know what I believe in. I'll admit, sometimes I get a little heated when it comes to politics, but if I had the time to have a proper debate with any of you guys, I assure you my knowledge of the issues would not be lacking. I know some of you probably can't believe an intelligent person who is well informed would support McCain, but not everyone loves Obama.
| quote: | Originally posted by nchs09
Just as useless as a McCain vote. |
I guess you'll be thrown for a loop if McCain actually wins which is still very possible.
Maggie is speaking some sense. Thank you for that insightful post. Good to see someone understands what's at stake. It seems like everyone is buying into this idea that taking from the rich and giving to the poor is such a great plan. |
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| iammesol |
I'm not hating at all. I'm respecting the fact that you disagree with his standings, but just astounded you'd even think he's not standing for anything substantial.
| quote: | Originally posted by Caution_BiPolar
Also, any candidate that will not even respect the morals this country was founded on wins no respect from me. |
Which morals are you talking about? The man has been quoting to constitution more than anyone I've ever seen in my life. |
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| ASoT1 |
I personaly just cant stand him he has way to many secrets he is endorsed by all these radical nations and groups and their dictator leaders why ? I could go all day for reason why I dont support him but I dont wanna make it into one of those threads lol.
But seriousy I just said that website about sums up how i feel not that is where im getting all my information on and basing my entire vote so chillllll :D |
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| Ted Promo |
| I can't support Obama or McCain. Barr '08! |
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| nchs09 |
| quote: | Originally posted by PVDfan07
actually wins which is still very possible.
| No, its not.... so i wont. |
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| enydo |
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| Seppuku |
| quote: | Originally posted by nchs09
No, its not.... so i wont. |
i have to agree. |
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| iammesol |
| quote: | Originally posted by enydo
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holy :stongue: |
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| romz |
| lol..... u idiots who think that obama supports the poor/middle class and mccain is for the rich/businesses are dead WRONG. Don't you know that when the big boys get taxed or fees passed on them... where do you think they pass it on????? YOU, the little guy! Higher prices of products, high fees on different things such as lending,etc... but what the , the average person votes on how good a candidate looks anyway, they dont even know what the candidates stand for aka 'ignent' people |
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| keithos27 |
| quote: | Originally posted by DiscoStew
After all, when you have a democratic process with voters who are not educated on the subject matter, you end up with something like the DJ Mag poll. |
Well said! |
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