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A&H vs. Pioneer. What do you recommend? (pg. 2)
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| Trance Android |
The Allen & Heath Xone62 is awesome. A friend of mine wanted to borrow my gear so lent his mixer to me in return.
I like to try & mix really smoothly & on my usual mixer I found the bass is delivered too strong I always feel it's obvious when the incoming track is being introduced, sometimes it's as if the bass is either on or off with not much in between :( None of this with the Xone62, the EQ's & sliders are very smooth & are very forgiving "in the mix", plus with 2 mid EQ's I can ease the track in really smoothly on the Xone to give much tidier transitions.
I've not had it long so I've not had chance to find every plus or minus about it yet. The filters are pretty wild but there's not as much variety as I'm used to on my Pio gear. One thing that irritates me slightly is sometimes you press a button to switch it on (ie turn on a channel when cueing) but other times you press the button to turn it off (ie the filters). I've fcuked up a few times on this but it's just something I'll get used to after a while so no big deal, just me being a muppet :)
Overall I love the Xone62 & won't be reminding my mate he's still got my gear any time soon :D I've lent him my Pio DJM909 & EFX1000, dunno what he makes of em yet. Overall I've got to say I think I prefer the Xone. Having said that my mate who's mixer it is is a reasonably well known DJ (spins internationally) & he reckons the DJM800 is where it's at... There are more whistles & bells FX wise on the DJM700 & 800 than the Xone62.
Only way you will know for sure is to get your hands on them all at your local DJ equipment emporium :) |
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| Lucas-K |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nemesis44
A&H owns pioneer hands down in terms of sound and stability, but pioneer comes into it's own if you know how to work effects etc. Depends on your style and what you are looking for.
Cheers
Nem |
Ya true and i can always pick up a EFX-500 later down the road for 300USD if i want to used effects |
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| Lucas-K |
| quote: | Originally posted by Trance Android
The Allen & Heath Xone62 is awesome. A friend of mine wanted to borrow my gear so lent his mixer to me in return.
I like to try & mix really smoothly & on my usual mixer I found the bass is delivered too strong I always feel it's obvious when the incoming track is being introduced, sometimes it's as if the bass is either on or off with not much in between :( None of this with the Xone62, the EQ's & sliders are very smooth & are very forgiving "in the mix", plus with 2 mid EQ's I can ease the track in really smoothly on the Xone to give much tidier transitions.
I've not had it long so I've not had chance to find every plus or minus about it yet. The filters are pretty wild but there's not as much variety as I'm used to on my Pio gear. One thing that irritates me slightly is sometimes you press a button to switch it on (ie turn on a channel when cueing) but other times you press the button to turn it off (ie the filters). I've fcuked up a few times on this but it's just something I'll get used to after a while so no big deal, just me being a muppet :)
Overall I love the Xone62 & won't be reminding my mate he's still got my gear any time soon :D I've lent him my Pio DJM909 & EFX1000, dunno what he makes of em yet. Overall I've got to say I think I prefer the Xone. Having said that my mate who's mixer it is is a reasonably well known DJ (spins internationally) & he reckons the DJM800 is where it's at... There are more whistles & bells FX wise on the DJM700 & 800 than the Xone62.
Only way you will know for sure is to get your hands on them all at your local DJ equipment emporium :) |
Ya man i am having the same probelm with my mixer. iT is so obvious when im introducing a new track. the bass alsways seems louder when i introduce a new track, no matter how much i turn the low down. And if the A&H does deliver smoother transitions, then that is something to def keep in mind. As far as your friend, i wouldnt remind him either :). But yes the djm-800 does look like a fanstastic mixer as well. It seems like a 50-50 opinion between dj's on TA and others. The thing is though, even though the A&H might lack some effects which is pretty important to me, I can always pick up a EFX-500 which is only like $300 dollars if i find a good deal on ebay , craiglist ect. So that and a xone 62 is still gonna be less than a djm-800, so that is something to keep in mind as well. IDK it seems like 50-50 between alot of people so i will just try to find a store that sells both. So idk if you or anyone else would know, but what is the main diff between a xone 62 and 42? |
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| Lucas-K |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dj Gracjan
I am a proud owner of a djm800 and honestly all I can say is WOW! The thing is perfect. It's comfortable, sounds amazing, everything is where it needs to be. I have played on A&H mixers b4 and I must say I'm not a big fan of them. |
Asking a proud 800 owner, what about the xone did you not like? was it just the layout of the xone compared to the 800? i know that the pioneer 800 delivers more effects which is also a plus in my opinion, but what main differences did you notice? and what did you not like? |
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| Imagin |
Honestly its whichever mixer makes you feel more comfortable. They are the standards albeit the Pioneer is a little more universal. Sans why so many people like the A&H. Not everywhere has it and uses it and it makes people feel different then everyone else.
Theyre both superb. Albeit ive used nothing but Pioneer since I started DJing so I am partial to them. |
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| Dj Gracjan |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lucas-K
Asking a proud 800 owner, what about the xone did you not like? was it just the layout of the xone compared to the 800? i know that the pioneer 800 delivers more effects which is also a plus in my opinion, but what main differences did you notice? and what did you not like? |
Maybe because I haven't had a lot of experience with them, but I was not a fan of the 4 band EQ. I didn't really see a point to it, but like mentioned i only used A&H mixers 5 times at most. I just didn't really feel comfortable on it as I do on the 800.
Another thing that pissed me off was that when I hooked up RCA from the mixer to my amp I couldn't really make the speakers bang out as loud as I wanted them. Seems like the only way to get real loud sound was to hookup to PA speakers. Unless I missed something, but I don't think I did?
I strongly recommend (if possible) going to a music store and trying to rent them out to see for yourself. If that is not possible maybe chill with some friends who might have the mixers. |
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| Yohan |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dj Gracjan
Maybe because I haven't had a lot of experience with them, but I was not a fan of the 4 band EQ. I didn't really see a point to it, but like mentioned i only used A&H mixers 5 times at most. I just didn't really feel comfortable on it as I do on the 800.
Another thing that pissed me off was that when I hooked up RCA from the mixer to my amp I couldn't really make the speakers bang out as loud as I wanted them. Seems like the only way to get real loud sound was to hookup to PA speakers. Unless I missed something, but I don't think I did?
I strongly recommend (if possible) going to a music store and trying to rent them out to see for yourself. If that is not possible maybe chill with some friends who might have the mixers. |
RCA out is used for recording on Xones.
You'll need to use the XLRs or 1/4" for main sound output. (or get RCA adapters)
For bedroom DJs, really doesn't matter whether you get pios or xone, but in clubs, I find xones do sound better. 4 band eq thing you just need to get used to them. |
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| andresi |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lucas-K
Asking a proud 800 owner, what about the xone did you not like? was it just the layout of the xone compared to the 800? i know that the pioneer 800 delivers more effects which is also a plus in my opinion, but what main differences did you notice? and what did you not like? |
What i love about the DJM-800 is the design.. it's so basic and simple but still its a very advanced mixer with great sound and feeling.
Unfortnately i cant say the same about xone92.. about design. It looks much more difficult to use and not so easy to understand as djm800.
Also the cue/pre-listening system is different.. but i thank its a matter of getting just to it.
If you ask me xone92/62 is more like an studio mixer with its aux solutions. If you gonnna hook up an efx you'l have to go from the efx to your speakers.. Routing the efx through Xone is difficult!
I would get the 42 that has send/return and the awesome filter and sound aswell.
Some time after i got the djm800 i really wondered if i should choose the xone instead but now im more happy than ever. Mainly because i dont need such an expensive mixer at home, and i have booth efx and filter on the 800. And almost in every place i work they have djm800.
I love the warm and analogue sound + filter on xone mixers.. but il say it again, djm800 = you get more for the price :)
sorry for my english typing.. |
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| Brades |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dj Gracjan
I am a proud owner of a djm800 and honestly all I can say is WOW! The thing is perfect. It's comfortable, sounds amazing, everything is where it needs to be. I have played on A&H mixers b4 and I must say I'm not a big fan of them. |
Sounds amazing? :stongue: I guess you have never heard a good sounding mixer before. |
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| Lucas-K |
| quote: | Originally posted by Brades
Sounds amazing? :stongue: I guess you have never heard a good sounding mixer before. |
You think A&H sounds better? how does the 42 sound compare to others models of allen and heath? |
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| Dj Gracjan |
| quote: | Originally posted by Brades
Sounds amazing? :stongue: I guess you have never heard a good sounding mixer before. |
even if it does (which it might?) I'm not some crazy sound specialist, but either way I'm sure it's not heavily beater. Either way I connect my cdj's digital and for me that does everything plus some to what I want it to do. I'm totally not saying the Xone's are bad, but they just don't fit my style of djing. As stated above the djm8 is really straight forward yet brings a lot to the table, the xone's are not so straight forward if you ask me and don't bring effects, but some wicked filters.
I believe it's all about personal preference |
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