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IT Jobs in Toronto or GTA ? (pg. 3)
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| Owen M |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tadz101
Hey Guys
anyone know of any opening's for the position of IT or Desktop Support in Toronto or sourounding areas.
Besides workopolis or monster
thanks
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Live Nations were a few weeks ago for their toronto office.
http://www.livenationcareers.com/ |
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| funkapotamus |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tadz101
Hey Guys
anyone know of any opening's for the position of IT or Desktop Support in Toronto or sourounding areas.
Besides workopolis or monster
thanks
:) |
Can't speak much for Desktop Support as where I work most of the work is contracted out to vendors. But if you have experience in application development or project management, infrastructure support there are a couple open job competitions.
PM me for more details. |
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| ExtremeWays |
| Should I lose my and quit mine, I will let you know... |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by VDub
Its a saturated field with pay and no future... |
I assume you mean helpdesk and basic admin duties, because most companies will still pay dearly for someone who knows how to design a real information system. Hell, they're dropping upwards of 20 G's for some dude with a slick sales pitch to spend 3 hours slinging together a web site with Joomla and a $20 template and some stock photos.
People who know their in this industry can get things done 10 to 50 times faster than the offshore consultants and migrant workers (not that there aren't plenty of Caucasians who are just as lousy), and with a better-quality and more maintainable product at the end. That's not an exaggeration, it's hard data.
But again, it may not apply so much to the commodity cable-crimping and password resets that so-called "IT" jobs often turn out to be - in other words, secretaries for corporate servers. There's a world of difference between checking the e-mail quarantine reports and, say, consolidating two companies' directories and customer databases. There still plenty of money in skilled IT work, but you often have to do the legwork yourself instead of browsing Workopolis because the corps who need it the most are usually the same ones who think they can get away with bringing in the boss's nephew for a day. |
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| Abercrombie |
| They just cancelled our team holiday party. They're ing cutting corners everywhere. We were going to go to the nearby bowling alley on Eglinton/Dixie for the annual $25 per person holiday party allocation, and now it's a ing baking potluck in a meeting room. The times are getting really tough, and employees here are getting pissed off. |
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| DigiNut |
| Amazing. It's everybody preparing for the stupid recession that's actually going to cause it. If they can't even afford a Christmas party then I wouldn't be expecting much of a bonus. |
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| malek |
| quote: | Originally posted by Abercrombie
They just cancelled our team holiday party. They're ing cutting corners everywhere. We were going to go to the nearby bowling alley on Eglinton/Dixie for the annual $25 per person holiday party allocation, and now it's a ing baking potluck in a meeting room. The times are getting really tough, and employees here are getting pissed off. |
that's nothing mate, for the fifth year in a row our BU (that should be added to that other thread) is not hitting profit targets by slim margins and there's no bonuses. Moreoever profit targets grow at a faster rate than the revenues:rolleyes:
They also have frozen raises for the new year, and forced everyone to use his overtime/holidays bank (except me because it was at -5 days:stongue: :stongue:) for the two weeks holidays.
Now people are fleeing like crazy, we lost 4 this week out of a team of 60. |
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| Abercrombie |
| quote: | Originally posted by malek
They also have frozen raises for the new year, and forced everyone to use his overtime/holidays bank (except me because it was at -5 days:stongue: :stongue:) for the two weeks holidays.
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Same here as well... mandatory 2 week shut-down, so we either use our vacation days to keep the paycheck steady or no pay.
Fortunately, funds have been allocated for our bonuses already for this year because FY08 has been profitable, however there won't be anything for FY09, and no raises either, dispite the potential 2-digit inflation that is predicted for next year.
The 2 guys I hired in Buenos Aires (and the rest of all the employees there) are pissed off because of of the pay raise freeze. Inflation there is 22% so at this moment after the announcements we just had, they're fcuked. |
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| |3 |_ @ Z 3 |) |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
There still plenty of money in skilled IT work |
I agree with you to an extent. While some employers do pay very well the majority screen for a RIDICULOUS amount of educational qualifications and experience. They want all the bells and whistles but truly do not accomodate you financially for what they "require". I can only advise being a self made consultant. If you are going to work long and hard to acquire what may seem like an excess amount of certificates, then I would advise working for yourself or a very private consulting company. Especially since "IT" has On-Call written all over their job each and everyday for "mission critical" uptime. Besides who really wants to keep working for corporate minions?! |
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| malek |
ouchhhhhhhhh 22% that's bad.
i don't know if we'll have something similar over here, intrest rates, food and oil prices have been dropping and those are the main components of consumer price inflation. |
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| malek |
| quote: | Originally posted by |3 |_ @ Z 3 |)
I agree with you to an extent. While some employers do pay very well the majority screen for a RIDICULOUS amount of educational qualifications and experience. They want all the bells and whistles but truly do not accomodate you financially for what they "require". I can only advise being a self made consultant. If you are going to work long and hard to acquire what may seem like an excess amount of certificates, then I would advise working for yourself or a very private consulting company. Especially since "IT" has On-Call written all over their job each and everyday for "mission critical" uptime. Besides who really wants to keep working for corporate minions?! |
this is true, most employers are just cheap bastards asking for the moon but not wanting to pay for it. The problem is there's always some fool who'll take the job...
Working on your own is the best, 100-120k+ is the starting norm, a level you can't reach for a while if ever when salaried. |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by |3 |_ @ Z 3 |)
While some employers do pay very well the majority screen for a RIDICULOUS amount of educational qualifications and experience. |
Not in the SMB sector. At least not to that extent. Most small business owners don't even know that such qualifications exist, and to the extent that they do, they only have a vague idea what they entail (not much, in my mind).
I've seen the garbage on Monster and Workopolis, people asking for 10 years of experience in .NET or Windows Vista. They're usually from Fortune 1000 companies or wannabes delegating the entire hiring process to HR flunkies, and to a lesser extent a smattering of clueless managers from smaller companies. You don't want to work for those people anyway. They're the ones that pay and provide miserable work environments.
It's like I said, if you want the good jobs, you often have to make the first move. If a company hasn't even put out a job ad then they're certainly not going to have a checklist of MS certifications. Often this means being self-employed and contracting, but not necessarily, if you happen to find a business that's genuinely growing. |
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