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MDMA is approaching FDA drug approval process (pg. 4)
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| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by Trance Nutter
phase 1 trials are not efficacy, they only test for safety using healthy subjects.
I call bull.
by the way even if it has just gone through phase 1 its still many years away from market. |
The article says that they have gone through phase I and have already been well into phase II. |
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| diggerz |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
What's funny about this is that this is exactly what MDMA was used for until it was outlawed in the US. |
to treat vietnam vets :conf: |
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| diggerz |
| quote: | Originally posted by denys envy
put it this way.
if you could drive a couple of neighborhoods over to Jose's house and a get a pack of smokes for 2 dollars that he naturally grew himself. or go to the convenience store and get the same for $7. what would be your choice.
you were right on the fact that alcohol and tobacco has established themselves in our society. for a very good reason - they were there from the beginning. tobacco manufacture and alcohol (in substitute of unavailable clean water) have somewhat engrained (pun intended) themselves into our culture (also corn, but that's another story).
i think it tooks some centuries to eradicate illegal tobacco farming (through a bunch of rules and laws, punishments) and also illegal alcohol trafficking (same concept). the only reason why the prohibition didn't last is because the government saw the "gangsters" make a killing of bootlegging alcohol.
to conclude: i think you got it all wrong. the government could care less about our health and the implications of making something legal or illegal. in the end it all comes down to money, the control of it, and if there's any to be made by making something legal.
edit: furthermore, my thought are not altogether this morning. i think when i have a clearer mindset i'll be able to express myself better. i just hope i've gotten the concept across clearly enough to understand my point of view. i'm not saying i'm right, or anyone is for that matter. what the do we know? |
this was entertaining to read. :stongue:
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| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by denys envy
All I'm saying is that if there's no one to do the drug in the first place, it becomes a non-issue. |
Agreed, but that is like alcohol prohibition. It failed for two reasons. It was already a huge part of our social structure and the ban just created more crime and criminals. |
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| Aortik |
| Well that's just it - Jose, eh's a cool guy, doesn't afraid of anything etc~ I'd hate to see him go out of business or face watered-down competition because Pfizer is offering a version of his stuff at a taxable price. I mean, Jose takes care of me, just like you said. People are probably going to start buying it legal though because people are sheep - they'd rather appeal to approval than to quality when it comes to the great risks that insidious possession laws in the US pose. |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by diggerz
to treat vietnam vets :conf: |
mostly rape victims and terminally ill patients. |
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| denys envy |
| Right, drugs should stay illegal to keep honest drug dealers like Jose in business. |
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| denys envy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
mostly rape victims and terminally ill patients. |
, that's like... 90% of the CORe. |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| quote: | Originally posted by gehzumteufel
Agreed, but that is like alcohol prohibition. It failed for two reasons. It was already a huge part of our social structure and the ban just created more crime and criminals. |
And alcohol producers and distributors (a la the Anheiser-Busch clan) were already well-established as substantial donors to political campaigns.
Seriously, you guys are underestimating the pull of the alcohol and tobacco lobbies in DC - reason #1 why marijuana will likely never be legalized. Same goes for any other illicit drug that could be used for recreational purposes. |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by denys envy
All I'm saying is that if there's no one to do the drug in the first place, it becomes a non-issue. |
making something illegal rarely succeeds in reducing the demand for it. Demand for alcohol increased during prohibition. Demand for marijuana increased after it was outlawed in the 60s. I'm not sure about demand for acid in the late 60s but it certainly didn't go down significantly. Prohibiting something just makes it illegal... it doesn't destroy the market. |
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| Aortik |
Precisely. You start legalizing substances, and the private recreational pharmaceutical manufacturing industry is going to need a bailout. All that tax money you think you're profiting from by subsidizing previously illegal substances goes right back into the pockets of drug dealers and child murderers, etc.
KEEP ECSTASY ILLEGAL. |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by denys envy
, that's like... 90% of the CORe. |
yeah, I only have 10% to go! |
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