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It's time for me to start producing music...how?? (pg. 2)
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| kitphillips |
Stormbringer, good work on creating the funniest thread I've read on here in ages. Pure gold.
Richie, ya know, at least I'm game enough to actually post what I produce rather than just slinging off about other people's art;) . And I'm entitled to say that theres a lot of e in hard dance if I like, in sydney hard dance is a filthier word than trance. Maybe its different elsewhere.
Seriously though, we need a method of stopping these sorts of threads. I really admire the work that MOK's gone to to help this guy, but he'll be turning around and writing it all over again tomorrow, which is really annoying. We need a better search function. I'm down with helping people, but answering the same question the same way every other day is really boring and obscures what decent topics might be around to discuss. |
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| smaulpaul |
well when the advice starting appearing on this thread this was a really good read and has given me one key insight.
just buy your DAW until you need to buy more. I agree that things will need to be bought and I'm glad that people understand you can buy it bit by bit. Most people tend to say buy this that and the other as well as this that and then some of this...like were all made of money. |
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| kitphillips |
| quote: | Originally posted by EgosXII
not at all: i've started a number of stupid 'n00b' help threads, but even i think there's been some really bad ones lately.. :eyes:
hence i've just been using tutorials, and the search function to find stuff instead of spammin the forumz (edit: with new threads, still spam it with pointless posts :p ) :D |
Nah, most of what you post is reasonable, because you go to the trouble of checking the page before you to see if similar questions have been asked first. Rather than just joining and hitting the post thread button. I can respect that. If someone asks a question which is noobish but not covered in detail in the last week or three, its legit IMO. I just have very littl patience with people asking the same question several times in the same week. |
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| Stormbringer |
| quote: | Originally posted by smaulpaul
well when the advice starting appearing on this thread this was a really good read and has given me one key insight.
just buy your DAW until you need to buy more. I agree that things will need to be bought and I'm glad that people understand you can buy it bit by bit. Most people tend to say buy this that and the other as well as this that and then some of this...like were all made of money. |
Gotcha! :) The reason why I made this post is because there is a certain sound that I want to make. And it's not the "club trance" sound...though I do like club trance. I want to make that "hard trance" sound. I've read past posts before but none of them really explained about the sound I wanna make. I just wanna make sure that if I buy Fruity Loops, I will be able to make the sounds, after a lot of practice and work, that I want to. |
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| Bren-F |
As said above, don't buy anything until you have researched the subject quite a bit.
But, it may be worth buying yourself a cheap keyboard and start learning some music basics like chords, keys basic tonality ect.
Read the tutorials in here and also check out some of the tutorials on the Computer Music website: http://www.computermusic.co.uk/page...m_tutorial_pdfs
Maybe try out some software demos until you find something that you can work with.
But most importantly of all, you'll need a LOT of patience!
Good luck! :D |
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| EgosXII |
| quote: | Originally posted by kitphillips
Nah, most of what you post is reasonable, because you go to the trouble of checking the page before you to see if similar questions have been asked first. Rather than just joining and hitting the post thread button. I can respect that. If someone asks a question which is noobish but not covered in detail in the last week or three, its legit IMO. I just have very littl patience with people asking the same question several times in the same week. |
glad you see where i'm coming from :)
there are currently THREE active "how to start making trance" threads :conf: |
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| Stormbringer |
| quote: | Originally posted by MOK
Read all the tutorials here, read through messageboards like these and KVR. Knowledge is what fuels practice, which is what fuels skill. Eventually you'll start feeling confident with your sound.
As for gear & software, I suggest staying 'in the box,' all software. Nowadays, PC's are powerful enough that there's no reason not to take advantage. If you want hardware, go for it. But software is more powerful, and cheaper. The simplified setup is also nice, giving better access to mobility.
The good thing about modern DAWs is that you can get pro results with pretty much anything. All it takes is lots of intimate knowledge and experience with your software. The new Reason is excellent, as is FL. Reaper is super cheap and very good. I use Cubase studio, and it's never let me down. Logic is the go-to choice for Mac.
One thing I'd warn against, however, is falling into the 'gear trap,' as I call it. This is the mindset where you become convinced that your results will be better if you can get This or That or whatever. Don't fall for that. You can make incredible things despite your gear, software, or set up. Aside from your primary DAW, you need absolutely nothing. Some things help... a midi controller, some good powered nearfields, a good audio interface, a good set of headphones, a fast computer... But none of those are necessary, certainly not needed to get started.
But I do suggest getting a solid set of headphones early on ($200+, not you $100 DJ headphones crap). This can help you forestall getting good speakers till later. I can just about guarantee that the speakers you have right now isn't good for production due to lack of accuracy. Rather than sinking a bunch into that problem now, and find out later "I shoulda bought those instead....," just get good set of headphones now. There's no buyers remorse there, much cheaper, and it's highly accurate(if you went for good ones).
As for computers, in a nutshell, any solid gaming computer will be good for it. While any pc or laptop WILL work, if you're going to buy a new one, look for something with tons of processing. Not much else matters. Fast processor is what you need. Laptops afford you mobility, and desktops afford you stability and security. Personally I favor desktop if you're serious about learning the craft. I've always ran into odd, unforeseeable trouble with laptops.
Do not buy computer store sound cards. What you want is a dedicated audio interface. Those will require research on your part. You'll find lots of info on that both here and on KVR. But no rush... I suggest waiting on this til when you're eventually ready to buy your shiny new powered near field reference monitors.
Once your DAW is up and running, download and use ASIO4ALL. This reduces your audio latency.
Go to a magazine/news store and look up magazines like Computer Music and Future Music and Electronic Musician. They often run special editions made for beginners, or have articles for beginners.
Read manuals. Consider reading books. Frequent the message boards. Make a folder in your bookmarks menu dedicated to audio pages.
This is a very in-depth craft, and it takes a ton of practice to get any good. Unlike other methods of making music, it requires you to first wade in and figure out a ton of technical stuff before you can even start making what's in your head audible. So have patience.
I wish you luck.
If you have more specific questions, fire away. But don't forget to browse around a little, and perhaps MAYBE use the search function to find the answer the question you're about to ask, which has inevitably already been asked a million times over. |
Great read! Thank you! |
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| Owsey2008 |
I'm not trying to be rude, but have you honestly been "in the scene" for nearly 15 years? Normally people around that long would know a bit more :clown:
p.s. You should look at the "Master List" |
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| Stormbringer |
| quote: | Originally posted by Owsey2008
I'm not trying to be rude, but have you honestly been "in the scene" for nearly 15 years? Normally people around that long would know a bit more :clown:
p.s. You should look at the "Master List" |
haha...Not everyone who joins the scene ends up being a DJ....Just like not everyone who ends up being a DJ ends up being a producer....Anybody who's been in the scene, for a while, should know that.. :cool: ...and master list? |
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| lenieNt Force |
| quote: | Originally posted by Stormbringer
haha...Not everyone who joins the scene ends up being a DJ....Just like not everyone who ends up being a DJ ends up being a producer....Anybody who's been in the scene, for a while, should know that.. :cool: ...and master list? |
I'm not saying it's not ok to make threads, but I will give you a well meaning advice. Browse the forum ;) ..Everything you'll ever want to ask is already been asked a thousand times on here :)
Master list: http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...7&forumid=48&s= |
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| RichieV |
| quote: | Originally posted by kitphillips
Seriously though, we need a method of stopping these sorts of threads. |
that is why god invented sarcasm. |
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