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The Obama thread - Without flaming!
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| patpicos |
Obama will soon be the US president and it will be a new for the US...the first black president.
What do you
- Approve of him
- Disaprove of him
- wish he tackles during his presidency
Personally, I approve:
- his push for technology. He will probably be the 1st US president to have a PC/laptop on his desk at the white house and his push for the use of a blackberry
- his push to revitalize the middle class. They are the one that need the most help and leveling the US population will be a great start to help the US recover
- his push to fix the health care system. His current revitalization plan is supposed to electronize medical records. This is a huge task, which is likely to have much opposition due to its costs. But I believe the benefits outweigh any costs in this case. Also, this allows the creation of technology jobs (most recessions push for infrastructure revitalization). How many times can u not read a physician prescription?! How often are medical records incorrect lost, etc etc)
- I am glad he is not a redneck like Bush/McCain. I followed his campaign to some extent and watched the various debates. Im glad he doesnt want to be king of the world and use war right away. McCain was too biased on security/war issues because he's been involved in them
Disapprove:
- overall im pleased by him..dont have much bad against him. Many see hes full of it, but i believe he has a strong will and good ethics
Challenges:
- Congress/HR/Senate will be his main enemies. Pushing bills is always a hassle with the bipartisanship and strong lobbying. Pushing his revitalization bill will be a testament of how much he can rally support from both sides of the aisle
- Although the various wars going on are challenges (hamas/israel, afghanistan, iraq, iran/nuclear)...i'd rather see him focus on the US
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| She_Fitz |
I approve...
I think the biggest thing I have noticed is the fire he has sparked in a lot of people. They want change and are willing to listen to him and help make change in themselves.
And yes Frank he has a soul. |
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| ChemEnhanced |
he is probably the lesser of two evils.
Unfortunately, I think he has been set up to fail....by no fault of his own. Everyone seems to think he will be the saviour of the USA...and not only Americans think that.
He will either be one of the greatest successes or one of the biggest failures as a president....that is if he even survives one term. |
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| Yohan |
he's going to tread on thin ice, with success or failure of bailout package be seen as his responsibility
afraid he's going to be too much hype, not enough substance. he's basically looked upon as a saviour by many after debacle that is bush's presidency. if he cannot deliver quickly, the optimism will quickly turn into pessimism and the yanks may turn on him. |
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| Inrush |
| I approve, but he sure does have some big ups to fix. Good or bad he should be interesting to watch. |
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| patpicos |
| quote: | Originally posted by She_Fitz
I approve...
I think the biggest thing I have noticed is the fire he has sparked in a lot of people. They want change and are willing to listen to him and help make change in themselves.
And yes Frank he has a soul. |
He definitely has charisma. His acceptance speech was nothing short of spectacular and motivating. Americans are beat up and I hope he keeps it up and people support him. I wish harper was anywhere close to him in charisma....Harper is close to a zombie in comparison
Also, if you evaluate him on leadership skills, hes pretty much way up there in the books. I see him as a new CEO in a battered company, many things have to be fixed, and it starts with a sound vision
I think he has evaluated past failures quite heavily to make sure he doesnt repeat it. |
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| patpicos |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
he is probably the lesser of two evils.
Unfortunately, I think he has been set up to fail....by no fault of his own. Everyone seems to think he will be the saviour of the USA...and not only Americans think that.
He will either be one of the greatest successes or one of the biggest failures as a president....that is if he even survives one term. |
he definitely has a tough mandate. Bush simply ing up with external relations, made USA one of the most hated countries, congress being ing lazy in implementing regulations in companies such as Freddie Mac/Fannie Mae. On one side, democrats sleeping with the companies, and republicans pushing for regulation....when usually democrats are pro-regulation and republicans are pro-market.
His success depends on his influence on congress...simple as that... and thats a bloody hard thing to do! |
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| DigiNut |
Approve: his charisma, which may become a great asset if the recession becomes a depression or if another war erupts.
Disapprove: his pie-in-the-sky goals without any corresponding plans.
Disapprove: his obvious socialism.
Disapprove: his wife. |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by devnull
Bush simply ing up with external relations, made USA one of the most hated countries |
I thought you wanted this to just be about Obama and keep it constructive. You don't even follow your own rules. Anyway, Bush ed up nothing internationally, he was just a convenient target for those who already hated the USA. |
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| patpicos |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
Disapprove: his obvious socialism.
Disapprove: his wife. |
Re: socialism, i think organizations benefited too much in the last few years, I believe it is time for average people to have some type of living.
On Wall st, pple that lost their job were making in the 100k...
CEO that were ousted were still granted millions for getting a kicking in the ass goodbye... I really dont believe in golden parachutes
as a normal employee, u get fired..u dont even get EI....execs...get fired...u get millions...
What is wrong with his wife? I have not followed that side at all |
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| patpicos |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
I thought you wanted this to just be about Obama and keep it constructive. You don't even follow your own rules. Anyway, Bush ed up nothing internationally, he was just a convenient target for those who already hated the USA. |
What i meant re: flaming is no bitching re: obama. There's definitely some hate against him. That's why I tried to frame the thread on what do you approve, disapprove of him and his challenges
What i meant re: bush ing up international relations is that if you look at how US was perceived at the end of Clinton's era to post Bush era, the US is much more hated in comparison.
I personally not a fan of Bush. That is based on the fact than im against war. I'd pull out canadian troops out of afghanistan and iraq. I believe the army is a big waste of money.
Ie. If the US was to spend the money spent on Iraq war on its health system, it would be much closer to the canadian system or better (not to say that canadian health system is perfect).
My mom had surgery today, total cost, $4 in parking....in the US....id be tin my pants seein the bill |
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| Yohan |
| quote: | Originally posted by devnull
I personally not a fan of Bush. That is based on the fact than im against war. I'd pull out canadian troops out of afghanistan and iraq. I believe the army is a big waste of money.
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whoever wants peace, prepare for war
-vegetius
i'm always amused by people who think military isnt necessary
i suppose being a slave is being preferable to war:wtf: |
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