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N.B. school silences the singing of O Canada
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| ChrisD |
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/new-brunswick/story/2009/01/28/nb-o-canada.html
I can only imagine how long this will last, no doubt the school and its administration is going to have quite the storm with this move. Thoughts? |
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| Yohan |
| another reason why Canadians slowly lose their identity as Canadians and why a lot of people have no real sense of nationalism or patriotism. Excessive nationalism and patriotism is bad, little of it is no good either |
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| Abercrombie |
| quote: | Erik Millett, the school's principal, said he made the decision partly to accommodate parents who didn't want their children taking part in the daily anthem. He would not say why the parents didn't want their kids taking part, citing privacy reasons.
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I only recall Jehova's Witnesses leaving the classroom to wait in the hallway when I was a kid. Of course they are not the only one so I'm not singling them out, but recalling a memory. Could there be such a large community there?
Or is it non-Canadians who don't feel obliged to sing it?
I predict the next thing that will change is the removal of "God" to "OH keep our land, glorious and free". |
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| Intangible |
| quote: | Originally posted by Abercrombie
I only recall Jehova's Witnesses leaving the classroom to wait in the hallway when I was a kid. Of course they are not the only one so I'm not singling them out, but recalling a memory. Could there be such a large community there?
Or is it non-Canadians who don't feel obliged to sing it?
I predict the next thing that will change is the removal of "God" to "OH keep our land, glorious and free". |
Jehova's were my first thought.
Honestly I think this is disgusting. If there are kids who do not want to participate then they can sit in the hall... but this is our anthem. It is part of our identity as Canadian citizens.
I think the anthem is also a great way to establish routine and order amongst children in the more, while encouraging patriotism.
Singing O Canada is one thing I miss... since I dont attend sporting events, I cant even remember the last time I sang it.
I wouldnt be surprised if they do remove the word 'god'... and Im actually surprised with myself because I think that would be okay. Patriotism does not relate to religion and as our country becomes more and more multicultural it only makes sense. |
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| Yohan |
| quote: | Originally posted by Intangible
I wouldnt be surprised if they do remove the word 'god'... and Im actually surprised with myself because I think that would be okay. Patriotism does not relate to religion and as our country becomes more and more multicultural it only makes sense. |
the french version would be even more controversial. IIRC there is a part that says something about holding a sword and a cross
national anthem... it is a tradition. i dont like changing the words from the original version for the sake of political correctness.
better things to worry about than whether the word 'god' belongs in a national anthem that has been part of Canadian identity for many a years
FFS. last I heard, some gay group is upset at CBC because Mike Milbury used the word 'pansyfication' |
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| UmmiE |
| quote: | Originally posted by Intangible
Jehova's were my first thought.
Honestly I think this is disgusting. If there are kids who do not want to participate then they can sit in the hall... but this is our anthem. It is part of our identity as Canadian citizens.
I think the anthem is also a great way to establish routine and order amongst children in the more, while encouraging patriotism.
Singing O Canada is one thing I miss... since I dont attend sporting events, I cant even remember the last time I sang it.
I wouldnt be surprised if they do remove the word 'god'... and Im actually surprised with myself because I think that would be okay. Patriotism does not relate to religion and as our country becomes more and more multicultural it only makes sense. |
+1
These people dont mind living here after leaving their home countries,working here,they dont even mind being citizens actually follow all the rules like dont leave the country until you become a citizen and have problems with participating in the national anthem... sakes..Can someone beat them up for me plz?:whip: |
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| Intangible |
| quote: | Originally posted by UmmiE
+1
These people dont mind living here after leaving their home countries,working here,they dont even mind being citizens actually follow all the rules like dont leave the country until you become a citizen and have problems with participating in the national anthem... sakes..Can someone beat them up for me plz?:whip: |
Most immigrants that I know are very proud of the national anthem. An old friend of mine told me the proudest moment of his life was when he sang O Canada the first time as a Canadian citizen. It think for a lot of immigrants it means for them then it does to people who were born here. However I also know many immigrants or even first generation Canadians who seem to be more proud of the country they came from then the country they live in... I do not understand that... for most immigrants it is a struggle for them to come here, some have some wealth and come here only to have nothing, and others leave with nothing and arrive with even less. For many its an uphill struggle. Why would they go through all that if they were not proud to be Canadian?
I think the main problem is not whether people are immigrants or not but more with religion. I believe the Jehova's will not stand for the anthem as they can not worship anything else. And other religious groups do not like the fact that 'god' is in the lyrics. |
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| Yohan |
^seems your experience with immigrant canadians than me
at least to my experience, if given a choice of pickiing between Canada or their homeland, 2/3 of immigrants I've spoken to would pick their homeland first
to a lot of immigrants, being Canadian is about milking Canada for what its worth |
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| Abercrombie |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yohan
to a lot of immigrants, being Canadian is about milking Canada for what its worth |
sad but true... too many coming here to become citizens, only to leave the country back to their homeland, only to use their citizenship for the free healthcare, and a quick place to go to after their country messes up. |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yohan
to a lot of immigrants, being Canadian is about milking Canada for what its worth |
I've noticed this too. The majority of the insurance claims I handle are for auto injury claims which can be very profitable. At least 80% of the claimants I deal with are not originally from Canada and the majority of them have been in Canada for less then 2 years.
IMO, there is a substantial number of immigrants who come to Canada for the easy money and not because they really want to leave their homeland. |
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| FunkyCrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by Intangible
However I also know many immigrants or even first generation Canadians who seem to be more proud of the country they came from then the country they live in... I do not understand that... for most immigrants it is a struggle for them to come here, some have some wealth and come here only to have nothing, and others leave with nothing and arrive with even less. For many its an uphill struggle. Why would they go through all that if they were not proud to be Canadian? |
it's not an issue of NOT being proud to be Canadian, it's more like an issue of being proud of your roots and where you born and raised (in my case) and not forgetting that. Sometimes it's hard to jangle being proud of 2 countries :)
I don't think that just because immigrants are proud of their motherland, means that they are not greatful that Canada offered them a new home. |
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| FunkyCrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yohan
to a lot of immigrants, being Canadian is about milking Canada for what its worth |
IMO - a bit of an arrogant statemmnt
if that was really the case, the borders would have been closed a long time ago, instead, immigration numbers are ever growing
maybe because we are doing some good to this country, hm?
and Yohan, were your parents born here? if yes, how about your grandparents? do you really think that if everyone had some an attitude towards immigrants, you would be living here right now?
up to this point, I have put a lot of money into Canadian economy through the money my family and I paid for my education. I am also paying taxes like everyone else in this country. I'm also paying taxes for free health care I have no access to since June. I wonder how is that considered milking Canada :) |
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