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N.B. school silences the singing of O Canada (pg. 2)
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| Yohan |
| quote: | Originally posted by FunkyCrew
IMO - a bit of an arrogant statemmnt
if that was really the case, the borders would have been closed a long time ago, instead, immigration numbers are ever growing
maybe because we are doing some good to this country, hm?
and Yohan, were your parents born here? if yes, how about your grandparents? do you really think that if everyone had some an attitude towards immigrants, you would be living here right now?
up to this point, I have put a lot of money into Canadian economy through the money my family and I paid for my education. I am also paying taxes like everyone else in this country. I'm also paying taxes for free health care I have no access to since June. I wonder how is that considered milking Canada :) |
i am not arguing that immigrants bring nothing to canada. hell, canada was built on immigration
of course there are plenty of hardworking immigrants. hence why i said 'a lot of immigrants'. that is still not saying there is no give and receive relationship between immigrants and canada
as for my parents, both of them have lived in canada for over 17 yrs (my mom actually went to school at Mount Allison) and they are two of the hardest working people I know.
but their attitude (well, more my dad than my mom) is that they are not impressed with Canadian culture at all and the reason why they came to Canada was for the benefit of their family. could give a rat's ass what goes on in Canada as long as it does not involve them. my parents work hard not to benefit canada, but to benefit my family
point is that because canada is too accepting, and there is no imposition of something akind to Canadian identity on new immigrants, because we say it's ok to be more proud of your homeland than Canada, new immigrants feel no reason to have a pride in Canada.
most immigrants come from a culture that is more steeped in tradition and history and heritage than our young nation, and sees Canada as inferior culture and no reason to adapt to canadian ways. this may be a bit of ignorance, but i can see why they would think so
those that know me do know that i'm about as patriotic canadian as they are out there. but i'm not a typical immigrant, i'd guess |
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| UmmiE |
When people ask me what do I like more Canada or Pakistan?....My answer always is the same:-
Canada and Pakistan are like my both eyes......I cant choose which one is better than then other.I was born in one,but living an awesome life in the other. |
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| FunkyCrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yohan
i am not arguing that immigrants bring nothing to canada. hell, canada was built on immigration
of course there are plenty of hardworking immigrants. hence why i said 'a lot of immigrants'. that is still not saying there is no give and receive relationship between immigrants and canada
as for my parents, both of them have lived in canada for over 17 yrs (my mom actually went to school at Mount Allison) and they are two of the hardest working people I know.
but their attitude (well, more my dad than my mom) is that they are not impressed with Canadian culture at all and the reason why they came to Canada was for the benefit of their family. could give a rat's ass what goes on in Canada as long as it does not involve them. my parents work hard not to benefit canada, but to benefit my family
point is that because canada is too accepting, and there is no imposition of something akind to Canadian identity on new immigrants, because we say it's ok to be more proud of your homeland than Canada, new immigrants feel no reason to have a pride in Canada.
most immigrants come from a culture that is more steeped in tradition and history and heritage than our young nation, and sees Canada as inferior culture and no reason to adapt to canadian ways. this may be a bit of ignorance, but i can see why they would think so
those that know me do know that i'm about as patriotic canadian as they are out there. but i'm not a typical immigrant, i'd guess |
ah
fair enough!
since my parents never came with me, I can only judge from my own prespective.. and for me moving to Canada was just to simply build my own future here. Canada has given me great friedships and for that I'm forever greatful! |
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| malek |
| do people sing the oh canada in classes??? I had no idea it was a common practice. |
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| infinity HiGH |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yohan
another reason why Canadians slowly lose their identity as Canadians and why a lot of people have no real sense of nationalism or patriotism. Excessive nationalism and patriotism is bad, little of it is no good either |
Canadians aren't slowly losing their identity imo. It's already gone. It's all the immigrants I tell ya! :rolleyes:
Edit: oh, and Molson Canadian commercials. |
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| jchung52 |
| quote: | Originally posted by FunkyCrew
IMO - a bit of an arrogant statemmnt
if that was really the case, the borders would have been closed a long time ago, instead, immigration numbers are ever growing
maybe because we are doing some good to this country, hm?
and Yohan, were your parents born here? if yes, how about your grandparents? do you really think that if everyone had some an attitude towards immigrants, you would be living here right now?
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without immigrants canada would be a dying country |
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| Yohan |
| quote: | Originally posted by malek
do people sing the oh canada in classes??? I had no idea it was a common practice. |
i'm going to guess it's different in quebec :p |
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| infinity HiGH |
| quote: | Originally posted by jchung52
without immigrants the west would be dying |
fixed. |
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| Abercrombie |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yohan
i'm going to guess it's different in quebec :p |
I went to French Catholic elemantary school there (Brossard), and we also sang Oh Canada every day. It's probably different nowadays. |
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| malek |
| quote: | Originally posted by Abercrombie
I went to French Catholic elemantary school there (Brossard), and we also sang Oh Canada every day. It's probably different nowadays. |
you're so old that what you are saying is totaly true:p. Oh Canada was the anthem for the French Canadians, while God Save the Queen was sung by English Canadians... Oh Canada was actually written for the St-Jean Baptist holiday, by the now very separatist St-Jean Baptist society.
people forget that.
Now Oh Canada is the Canadian anthem and that is why no one cares about it here anymore. |
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| VERTiG0 |
| This is beyond disgusting. We need to bring back public floggings. |
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| Spam |
| Who the cares? It's a boring song, nothing more. We don't need a national anthem to instill national pride, we need something worth being proud of! |
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