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Osama Bin Laden (pg. 8)
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| UmmiE |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
it taught me how to do honest research and how to weigh evidence appropriately, rather than believing anything and everything i read on some BS website. you know, like ummie's post regarding osama's denial of carrying out 911. perhaps if ummie understood the wider political climate and context of the (supposed) declaration from osama he wouldn't be regurgitating known fallacies as if HE'S an authority. FYI i dont consider myself even close to an authority, but i DO know more than clowns like him that wouldn't know their arsehole from a hole in the ground.
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Honestly I am not a osama fan sitting here and defending him.......I posted that article because it points towards a direction I think people should look into in which the Saudi Royal family and Bush Family have ties that go way back and I think politics these days is a very dirty business what we know through various media is just the tip of the iceberg.The actual real info is hidden from regular pubic eye,for personal and business benefits. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by UmmiE
Honestly I not a osama fan sitting here and defending him.......I posted that article because it points towards a direction I think people should look into in which the Saudi Royal family and Bush Family have ties that go way back and I think politics these days is a very dirty business what we know through various media is just the tip of the iceberg. |
what you did was post an article whose first statement (osama didn't carry out attacks) is blatantly untrue. there's no doubt that the saudi royal family are and their business links would extend to much of the world. what you havent done is actually linked anyone to anything meaningful.
for instance, what particular facts do you think you can glean from your post? its an honest question- what are you trying to say? that bush was in league with OBL and KSM? that AQ is really an arm of the CIA?
| quote: | Originally posted by UmmiE
The actual real info is hidden from regular pubic eye,for personal and business benefits. |
be that as it may, it is not reason enough to jump behind every conspiracy theory going round without any substantive reasons to do so. |
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| UmmiE |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
what you did was post an article whose first statement (osama didn't carry out attacks) is blatantly untrue. there's no doubt that the saudi royal family are and their business links would extend to much of the world. what you havent done is actually linked anyone to anything meaningful.
for instance, what particular facts do you think you can glean from your post? its an honest question- what are you trying to say? that bush was in league with OBL and KSM? that AQ is really an arm of the CIA?
be that as it may, it is not reason enough to jump behind every conspiracy theory going round without any substantive reasons to do so. |
Every coin has two diferent sides......Just like how some people believe that "aliens do exist" and like that is real.....and there is a wide majority that thinks its just on tv and movies nothing real...the religious people vs athiests.
If you try to search you can find countless articles all over the web....I cant be bothered with it...I have mid term to study for....some people believe its true some dont......To each their own. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by UmmiE
Every coin has two diferent sides...... |
no, there's the side with facts and then there's the deniers, liars and charlatans.
| quote: | Originally posted by UmmiE
If you try to search you can find countless articles all over the web.... |
big deal. its easy to spread bull via links. means nothing. i know for a fact that your initial comments about osama's lack of involvement in 911 are in error; no need to do any more researching than that. |
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| UmmiE |
Okay so here is my question to you:-
Why have they not found OBL yet?8yrs of bush admin crying about how he is the most wanted man even with money on his head why have they failed to find him?.....they can read number plates of cars via satelites but cant find a guy who wears a turban and is hiding in the mountians? |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by UmmiE
Okay so here is my question to you:-
Why have they not found OBL yet?8yrs of bush admin crying about how he is the most wanted man even with money on his head why have they failed to find him?.....they can read number plates of cars via satelites but cant find a guy who wears a turban and is hiding in the mountians? |
Last time I checked, the world was a pretty big place. You act like the US is infallible, lol.
Can I ask you a question? Why have they captured KSM and why has he admitted master-minding the 911 attacks? Your "theory" must hold for both; your implicit insinuation is that they're deliberately letting OBL live out his life in the pakistani hills, why did they not also extend that luxury to KSM? |
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| Domesticated |
| quote: | Originally posted by infinity HiGH
So what did they teach you at the Honours Level Terrorism course that's so much more authoritative than what can be found on the internet? |
I'm sorry, but there is just no other way to say it: you are retarded. |
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| infinity HiGH |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
Last time I checked, the world was a pretty big place. You act like the US is infallible, lol.
Can I ask you a question? Why have they captured KSM and why has he admitted master-minding the 911 attacks? Your "theory" must hold for both; your implicit insinuation is that they're deliberately letting OBL live out his life in the pakistani hills, why did they not also extend that luxury to KSM? |
But why would they? In what way would they be obligated to do the same for KSM?
| quote: | Originally posted by Domesticated
I'm sorry, but there is just no other way to say it: you are retarded. |
LOL how am I retarded? Do you just eat up everything that's spoonfed to you in school? Cause if so then you're the retard. Just because you slap on a fancy name like "honors" or whatever on something doesn't all of the sudden make it the be all end all authority. |
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| Omega_M |
| quote: | Originally posted by UmmiE
Every coin has two diferent sides......Just like how some people believe that "aliens do exist" and like that is real.....and there is a wide majority that thinks its just on tv and movies nothing real...the religious people vs athiests. |
Not two sides of the same coin where one needs to entertain both views. On one side you have facts. On the other, a bunch of conspiracy theorists and "believers" |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by infinity HiGH
But why would they? In what way would they be obligated to do the same for KSM? |
because he's part of the grand overall evil government scheme, that's why. what does your silly question represent btw? that osama wasn't involved in 911 but KSM was? or that KSM is a "fall guy" for the adminisitration? why have AQ repeatedly claimed responsibility for the attacks?
anywayz, does anyone in here have the first ing clue about what theyre talking about? or are they just repeating known fallacies and making horrible leaps of "logic" that make them look like fools? |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by infinity HiGH
LOL how am I retarded? Do you just eat up everything that's spoonfed to you in school? Cause if so then you're the retard. Just because you slap on a fancy name like "honors" or whatever on something doesn't all of the sudden make it the be all end all authority. |
i never claimed to be an authority. i know more about it than anyone that has yet posted in this thread, but believe me, that aint no authority :stongue: |
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| infinity HiGH |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
i never claimed to be an authority. i know more about it than anyone that has yet posted in this thread, but believe me, that aint no authority :stongue: |
Well considering I'm retarded for questioning what this "Honours" course has to offer I wanted to know what his view was. |
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