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| Subtle |
| quote: | Originally posted by Eric J
I actually do something that resembles this, but in real time. I have a secondary PC, running Live, that is used as an outboard sampler and real time analyzer. I run a spectrum analyzer AND run that Smexoscope plugin that allows me to view the waveform in real time as I am producing. Its real handy, because I can instantly see where I have large, unwanted peaks and compensate for them before I get to the final stages. I set my project and AI up to output the master to both my monitors and the secondary audio PC so I always have a frequency and waveform view of the track for reference. I'm not sure if I know anyone else that works in this manner, but it ensures there are no surprises when I bounce the mix down to audio. |
Thats really cool man! might look into something like this myself. |
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| Eric J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Subtle
Thats really cool man! might look into something this myself. |
Yeah, it's really cool. I'm actually quite surprised that I've never seen anyone else try it this way. Let me know if you have questions, I can give you the exact technical specs if you want to attempt to do something like this yourself. |
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| Existo22 |
| quote: | Originally posted by vikernes
I'm sorry, but I will have to call bull on that guy. It's a personal preference to mix against a compressor I guess, not something you advise people to do through a "tutorial video". Half way into mixing he changed the threshold and the ratio (I think) on the compressor (on the master bus), because he didn't like the sound. No . That's the reason you don't put a compressor there at the mixing stage. So after he did that, the levels on the tracks got screwed up. No #2.
Again, I have no problem if some people do it that way, it's just that I've never heard someone do that before I saw him and I thought this is somewhat of a "standard" in EDM.
Also, I think that guy is clueless. At one point in the video he's talking about the loudness wars and then goes to say something like - and I0'm not ting you -> "I don't know why people want their mixes so loud. If a track isn't loud enough you just turn up the gain on the mixer, that's why it's there." I'm not kidding you, I even think this is the exact quote he says. After I heard that I just scrolled through the video quickly just to end it.
Also he had clipping on almost every track in his mix. He did say something like how he doesn't care about "looking" at music, rather hearing it. So he says if he doesn't hear the signal getting clipped he doesn't bother lowering the volume. Which I guess isn't such a bad idea since every trance track I checked clips at least 10 times through the track - and I'm talking the likes of Tiesto, Armin etc... But he had levels peaking at something like 2.7db on the master or something most of the time. Even if you don't hear it, that might cause problems later (at least) at the mastering stage.
So a followup; I also get some clipping on the master in my tracks - mostly only when the kick hits in - and I'm not talking 2.7db here. As I said, I checked a lot of tracks from professional DJs/producers and almost every track has clipping in it. So should I worry about this if I can't hear it or just leave it?
AFAIK there should never be clipping on individual tracks, but it's kinda OK on the master? That's what I heard... |
''That Guy'' Is Olav Basoski. He is a very good producer. Period. |
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| Storyteller |
| Yea at least it's one that has the credentials/portfolio to talk whatever he wants :D. I don't see why people don't seem to get it. It's up to you what to do, it doesn't matter what you do as long as the outcome sounds good. |
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| EgosXII |
watched an ingrosso FM interview, he said he used a compressor on the master the whole time, to know "mix as he went" so to speak, saying that it saves doing it twice...
what storyteller said. probably not a good idea, but the craziest works for some people.. just needa see what works for you.. |
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| kitphillips |
| quote: | Originally posted by Existo22
''That Guy'' Is Olav Basoski. He is a very good producer. Period. |
never heard of him? What's he produced? Point me to samples? |
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| kitphillips |
| well I hadn't heard the name so assumed he must be somones ghost producer, or engineer or something. |
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| EgosXII |
| quote: | Originally posted by kitphillips
well I hadn't heard the name so assumed he must be somones ghost producer, or engineer or something. |
since you know every producer in the world? :p |
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| derail |
| quote: | Originally posted by EgosXII
since you know every producer in the world? :p |
Is the discussion about every producer in the world, or the most accomplished/ well-known ones?
I thought this Olav Basoski guy was supposed to be good, not an unknown producer who falls into the category of "every producer in the world". |
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| music2dance2 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Eric J
Yeah, it's really cool. I'm actually quite surprised that I've never seen anyone else try it this way. Let me know if you have questions, I can give you the exact technical specs if you want to attempt to do something like this yourself. |
Sounds interesting mate could I have the spec's? |
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| Eric J |
| quote: | Originally posted by music2dance2
Sounds interesting mate could I have the spec's? |
Send me a PM, and I'll describe it there. We can keep this thread uncluttered that way. :) |
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